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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    House to try again to pass 3 emergency funding bills amid government slimdown | Fox News

    Proof that it is the Democrats who are holding the government hostage, not the Republicans.
    More like they realized they need to offer the public they screwed over something before the pitchforks come out in. Well that and being able to hit the Dems over the head with "You hate the troops.... You hate the troops..."

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    Re: Democrats Hold

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    LOL.....spouting Bonner's talking points? Explain to us how a law passed by both houses of Congress and upheld by the United States Supreme Court after a Constitutional challenge is akin to a "dictatorhsip".....this should be good.......
    You do know how this got pushed through right? Did you study the history?
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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Its funny watching a purely partisan hack accusing others of being partisan hacks. This dictator in charge would negotiate with a country that stones gay people to death but won't negotiate with the duly elected legislative body of the people and you blame that legislative body? Shameful.
    When one duly elected legislative body waits until the 0 hour to deal with this why should the other duly elected legislative body or the president capitulate? If they wanted to conference about this they should have started 6 months ago. Does anyone really think that anyone would sit down and try to negotiate altering a signature piece of legislation in a single evening or even a week or month?

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    And why must the Republicans be forced to go against why they were elected? Why can't the president offer the same delay in his beloved health care act that he's granted to big corporations? Why this is that unreasonable?
    You do understand the corporate waivers only allow the businesses that were approved to continue to offer health plans WITH annual maximum benefit provisions. They aren't exempt from the ACA, only the provision that states the plans must have unlimited annual benefits. That's it... And only until 2014.

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You do know how this got pushed through right? Did you study the history?
    I am fully aware of the history. We ended up with an ACA that included the Heritage Foundation/Republican idea of the individual mandate rather than the public option (which was a better plan) because Obama tried to negotiate with the Republicans and the Bluedogs....the final bill was passed through the proper legislative process and signed into law. Incidentally, the teabaggers tried to challenge it and it was upheld by the United States Supreme Court. Can I help you with more history lessons or have you got it now?
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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    When one duly elected legislative body waits until the 0 hour to deal with this why should the other duly elected legislative body or the president capitulate? If they wanted to conference about this they should have started 6 months ago. Does anyone really think that anyone would sit down and try to negotiate altering a signature piece of legislation in a single evening or even a week or month?
    Have you been asleep, they have been talking about this for quite some time now. There has been a refusal to negotiate on the dem side the entire time. Just because you recently became aware of the issue doesn't mean the congress hasn't been debating it for a year now.

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    House to try again to pass 3 emergency funding bills amid government slimdown | Fox News

    Proof that it is the Democrats who are holding the government hostage, not the Republicans.
    I think both sides are showing a remarkable lack of flexibility and compromise. Does it really make sense to you to keep passing bills that either won't pass the Senate or will get vetoed by the President? Then you pass bills that fund what YOU like, but nothing else...and go running to your mouthpiece to talk about whose fault it is. Does that sound like good government to you?


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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    House to try again to pass 3 emergency funding bills amid government slimdown | Fox News

    Proof that it is the Democrats who are holding the government hostage, not the Republicans.
    the republican leadership were operating under a suspension of the rules, which means that it takes a 2/3rds majority to pass legislation in the house.

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I am fully aware of the history. We ended up with an ACA that included the Heritage Foundation/Republican idea of the individual mandate rather than the public option (which was a better plan) because Obama tried to negotiate with the Republicans and the Bluedogs....the final bill was passed through the proper legislative process and signed into law. Incidentally, the teabaggers tried to challenge it and it was upheld by the United States Supreme Court. Can I help you with more history lessons or have you got it now?
    The second sentence proves the first a lie. Obama himself negotiated away the public option with insurance execs. Republicans had nothing to do with that.

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Why do the Democrats not have to compromise? Why can't they compromise? The Republicans have many times now.
    From what I read regarding the passage of the ACA, it contains many of the items of which the Republicans originally favored.
    The Heritage Foundation and even Newt had similar items. One example, the "public option". First they were for it then they were against it. Negotiating with a moving target. Now they are on record as being against the ACA and it will eventually be as difficult to repeal as SS and Medicare. The Republicans should have said, "Americans are one medical crisis away from disaster. And rather than follow the Democrats tax tax tax plan we Republicans have a better way to protect the American people, and keep our country strong" But they missed an opportunity to lead and are perceived as the Grand Obstructionist Party. And they know it. That's why they're fighting to block the ACA because they know it will be popular. Time will tell.

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