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    Re: Gay rights organization files federal lawsuit challenging W.Va

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Negative stereotyping of gays is "mainstay" of anti-gay/ssm people. Only ignorant people believe that monogamy is the exception to a promiscuity "rule" among gays.

    Oh please.. Almost every survey ever done on the subject says you're either sadly misinformed or naïve.


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    Re: Gay rights organization files federal lawsuit challenging W.Va

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Promiscuity is mainstay of homosexual culture. Monogamy is not. I guess it might help a few, but policy should never be based on the few, or the exception to the rule. Liberals and left leaning libertarians always want the exception to become the rule when finding a problem worth fixing. Conservatives rarely see it that way.

    Marriage is broken in the west and there are a number of reasons for it, too many to list, adding homosexuals to the mix won't make it any better, and probably make it less legitimate. Heck there are stalwarts who want to ban government from marriage altogether now. An idea I have admittedly considered myself, but not there yet. What is the upside to SSM I ask myself, and the answer always comes back as none.


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    That's not how laws work in America. You don't have to prove the value or "good" of an action to legalize it; skydiving is legal, eating fast food is legal, Nascar races are legal, watching tv is legal, etc., and they aren't necessarily "good". You have the right to pursue happiness, it's in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution via the 9th Amendment. Laws are meant to protect you from other people, not to protect people from themselves. Or are you a liberal?

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    Re: Gay rights organization files federal lawsuit challenging W.Va

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's merely your opinion, not fact. I don't see many gay folk changing up their sexuality on a weekly basis. Besides, that's neither here nor there. It's arbitrary discrimination and using government issued and recognized contract to forbid recognized union between same sex couples.
    Yet gay folk expect everyone bow down to them and abandon their personal beliefs and politics to suit their gay agenda...


    Individuals have just as much of a right to be anti-gay as the gays have to be gay.. Yet the progressives and the confused authoritarians don't realize, respect or even understand that....

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    Re: Gay rights organization files federal lawsuit challenging W.Va

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And that proves what? I know more gay folk than you can list who have not changed sexuality.
    Their choice.
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    Re: Gay rights organization files federal lawsuit challenging W.Va

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    what does you link change about that facts?
    oh thats right nothing
    Um, the fact that homosexuals CAN change.
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    Re: Gay rights organization files federal lawsuit challenging W.Va

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yet gay folk expect everyone bow down to them and abandon their personal beliefs and politics to suit their gay agenda...


    Individuals have just as much of a right to be anti-gay as the gays have to be gay.. Yet the progressives and the confused authoritarians don't realize, respect or even understand that....
    What personal belief are they trying to get you to abdicate?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Gay rights organization files federal lawsuit challenging W.Va

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Wow, that isn't a change of sexuality, but rather a denial of attraction in favor of beliefs, generally brainwashed beliefs from others.
    Your opinion.
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    Re: Gay rights organization files federal lawsuit challenging W.Va

    Quote Originally Posted by douglas View Post
    That's not how laws work in America. You don't have to prove the value or "good" of an action to legalize it; skydiving is legal, eating fast food is legal, Nascar races are legal, watching tv is legal, etc., and they aren't necessarily "good". You have the right to pursue happiness, it's in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution via the 9th Amendment. Laws are meant to protect you from other people, not to protect people from themselves. Or are you a liberal?
    Everything is good and legal until someone says it shouldn't be legal. That's HOW laws work in this country.


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    Re: Gay rights organization files federal lawsuit challenging W.Va

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Their choice.
    Not really a choice, and again neither here nor there. These are consenting adults and you're blocking their right to contract based on some arbitrary discrimination.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Gay rights organization files federal lawsuit challenging W.Va

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Um, the fact that homosexuals CAN change.
    im sorry can you quote Ikari saying that none of them could, ill wait


    oh thats right he didnt because you link factually change nothing, thanks for proving me right again.
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