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Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy[W:200]

Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

Doesn't matter. Your point is demonstrably flawed. These things happen, i'll give you a clue, they're called anomalies.

You proved that my point that Michelle Bachmann may as well have lost the election was wrong because Scott Brown won a special election in Massachusetts? Eh... alright there.
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

You keep bringing this up as if it wasn't a fact that Democrats lost some weak seats in contested districts that swing back and forth. Why?

Because the Tea Party caused people to realize that trusting a Blue Dog Democrat to do what's best for America had become impossible.
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

No, it's their will to at least delay the individual mandate of Obamacare.

Which as I pointed out is not happening because they've shut down government. ObamaCare is still being implemented as we speak. So in short, what they've accomplished is to make it harder for their own supposed fan base gun owners, small business owners and such to actually get guns and loans. :shrug:
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

So let's get out in front of it and hamstring the country!

Awesome retort.
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

so unpopular laws should have never bee repealed. I guess you are for slavery and segregating because they where laws at one time also

Sure laws can be repealed...but the proper way is to go through the legislative process, not result to extortion tactics
 
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Because the Tea Party caused people to realize that trusting a Blue Dog Democrat to do what's best for America had become impossible.

Lol - blue dogs? Only 6 Blue Dogs were actually defeated by Republicans - again, you're stretching it to make it seem as if Republicans took over some massive Democrat stronghold. They really didn't.
 
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Lol - blue dogs? Only 6 Blue Dogs were actually defeated by Republicans - again, you're stretching it to make it seem as if Republicans took over some massive Democrat stronghold. They really didn't.

Dems lost over 60 seats in the 2010 House elections...
 
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You proved that my point that Michelle Bachmann may as well have lost the election was wrong because Scott Brown won a special election in Massachusetts? Eh... alright there.

No, your premise that the opposing party winning a historically opposition held seat is something to write home about is flawed. As I pointed out. Not too deep a puddle, but, get your waders if you must.
 
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With Obama refusing to even talk with the House about the disaster Obamadon'tcare it is impossible to make it better. Now maybe he told another one of his lies and will negotiate but he is on record at refusing to do just that.

He should refuse to negotiate, because there is nothing to negotiate. We should never give in to extortion tactics. Let the Repubs put a gun to the head of the American people and hold us hostage.....they will pay a huge political price. Thank you teabaggers for helping destroy the GOP.
 
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Dems lost over 60 seats in the 2010 House elections...

Mostly seats they hadn't held with any strength since the 1990s. :shrug: - That's nearly 25 years ago. So in short, Republicans took over weak seats. Big deal.
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

Which as I pointed out is not happening because they've shut down government. ObamaCare is still being implemented as we speak. So in short, what they've accomplished is to make it harder for their own supposed fan base gun owners, small business owners and such to actually get guns and loans. :shrug:
True, they have not accomplished it. However, and I have no insider info, I believe their mindset is that they will get the delay or the gov't will remain "shutdown" for lack of better terms.
 
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Mostly seats they hadn't held with any strength since the 1990s. :shrug: - That's nearly 25 years ago. So in short, Republicans took over weak seats. Big deal.

Only weak due to their representation of their electorate...
 
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No, your premise that the opposing party winning a historically opposition held seat is something to write home about is flawed.

Reading comprehension is your friend: I think you mean "nothing to write home about" -
Second point: What I pointed out was that Bachman winning a historically Republican seat is NOTHING to write home about.
 
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True, they have not accomplished it. However, and I have no insider info, I believe their mindset is that they will get the delay or the gov't will remain "shutdown" for lack of better terms.

will the republicans try to demand the delay of the affordable care act in exchange for raiseing the debt ceiling.
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

Only weak due to their representation of their electorate...

And the fact most of the seats were basically Republican seats before Bush.

Alabama's 2nd congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Arizona's 5th congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
New York's 25th congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Those are just 3 examples of Republicans winning in districts that are largely Republican with 1-2 Democrats elected every few years. Please, stop blowing it out of proportion.
 
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Reading comprehension is your friend: I think you mean "nothing to write home about" -
Second point: What I pointed out was that Bachman winning a historically Republican seat is NOTHING to write home about.

No...your premise that it is something to write home about is flawed. As I said. Condescension fail, Einstein.
 
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Speak for yourself. Not to mention Obamacare achieves none of that.

In teapartybizarroworld maybe. Meanwhile since ACA passed, health care costs have increased at a slower rate than any time in recent history.

Go figure. The facts don't match your bizarre narrative.
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

Sure laws can be repealed...but the proper way is to go through the legislative process, not result to extortion tactics


LOL. To bad for you that everyone doesn't have a short memory.

The voters in Mass elected Scott Brown so that his vote would stop Obamadon'tcare. Then at the last minute, good 'ol Harry pulled the plug on the legislative process and began the reconciliation process. Obamadon'tcare could not have been passed had 'ol Harry played by the normal rules. And you want to talk to people about the legislative process? LOL. You will get Obamas useful idiots to go along with you but that's about it.
 
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Oh, the liberal cry babies are out in force, aren't they. It must be horribly pathetic to get so emotionally traumatized by such a non event as this. Hey liberals, clean your diapers and get a hold of yourselves. The government is closed, the sky isn't falling. You can all survive this, I promise. In fact, a day or two without your daddy holding your hand through life might actually do you some good.
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

Sure laws can be repealed...but the proper way is to go through the legislative process, not result to extortion tactics

it took a war to repeal one of those laws. its that a legislative process?
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

True, they have not accomplished it. However, and I have no insider info, I believe their mindset is that they will get the delay or the gov't will remain "shutdown" for lack of better terms.

So - just for reference, what's the end game? Government is shut down - fine: Then what? ObamaCare is still going through. People are opposed to the GOP orchestrated shut down and there will be hell to pay next election. You think those 60 seats people keep bragging about will be safe? Lol. Here is what will happen:

1. Republicans will lose their choke hold on the house - I'd say anywhere from 20-30 seats.
2. Democrats will remain in control of Senate.
3. A Democrat will be elected President in 2016 after it's pointed out that the current GOP congressmen tried to shut down government because they didn't like a bill that was CONSTITUTIONALLY passed by Congress and signed by a legally elected president.

Who do you think is going to want to be at the forefront of the cluster bomb that is the 2016 GOP Presidential election? You think any GOP congressman is going to want to take responsibility for holding the paychecks of millions of US employees hostage? You think any GOP member is going to walk up and say "Hey, I helped shut down Yosemite because I didn't like some healthcare legislation?" - Lol. Get outtahurr.
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

will the republicans try to demand the delay of the affordable care act in exchange for raiseing the debt ceiling.
Hold on, let me go ask John.
 
Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

So - just for reference, what's the end game? Government is shut down - fine: Then what? ObamaCare is still going through. People are opposed to the GOP orchestrated shut down and there will be hell to pay next election. You think those 60 seats people keep bragging about will be safe? Lol. Here is what will happen:

1. Republicans will lose their choke hold on the house - I'd say anywhere from 20-30 seats.
2. Democrats will remain in control of Senate.
3. A Democrat will be elected President in 2016 after it's pointed out that the current GOP congressmen tried to shut down government because they didn't like a bill that was CONSTITUTIONALLY passed by Congress and signed by a legally elected president.

Who do you think is going to want to be at the forefront of the cluster bomb that is the 2016 GOP Presidential election? You think any GOP congressman is going to want to take responsibility for holding the paychecks of millions of US employees hostage? You think any GOP member is going to walk up and say "Hey, I helped shut down Yosemite because I didn't like some healthcare legislation?" - Lol. Get outtahurr.
I think this will be forgotten about next year honestly. It really will. There are many issues that will arise between now and then. Our society can't remember what happened last week bro.
 
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No...your premise that it is something to write home about is flawed. As I said. Condescension fail, Einstein.

Okay - are you reading what I said? I said it's actually nothing to write about. She won in a district that was Republican before and has swung back and forth. Do you understand what "nothing to write home about" means?
 
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