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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Looked it up, more liberal spin machine.

    You should try sticking to the facts.
    LOL it all over the internet as well. You can dent the fact but yeah they are there one even compared it to "9/11 lets roll" you and your ilk are very delusional at best. I am so glad your teaailban doesnt have the keys to run this country. Bunch of crybabies I didnt get what I want whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    LOL it all over the internet as well. You can dent the fact but yeah they are there one even compared it to "9/11 lets roll" you and your ilk are very delusional at best. I am so glad your teaailban doesnt have the keys to run this country. Bunch of crybabies I didnt get what I want whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    None of those were them saying they wanted to shut down the government. Keep lying if you want to.

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    A large majority of Americans oppose Obamacare. Are the Libbos going to listen?
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    That "rammed it down our throats" line never ceases to amuse. It was "rammed down our throats" by compromising the original plan to more align with right wing ideas, including basically replacing it with Romney's program in Massachusetts, and then passed by the democratically elected majority in both chambers of congress, then signed by the democratically elected president, and then upheld by the constitutionally empowered supreme court when challenged through the lawful channels available to detractors. When polled, the majority of Americans support the provisions of the law. At this point, "rammed down our throats" means whatever you don't like.
    If you mean utilizing doublespeak by calling the penalty a tax so it falls under 50-vote budget rules, but insist it isn't a tax as to not piss people off, then yes, completely democratic process.

    And the "right wing" idea of a mandate is minimal catastrophic insurance, which incidentally is not "good enough" to qualify for the ACA mandate, and most would still have to pay their fine/tax.

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    None of those were them saying they wanted to shut down the government. Keep lying if you want to.

    Yeah keep telling yourself that it is know fact that Lynn did it and several othe rthe video proves regardless if you believe it or not. You call it spin the rest of us call it fact. Once again the right is on the wrong side. The great thing is we are seeing the death of the Teaailban terroist in this country.

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    Yeah keep telling yourself that it is know fact that Lynn did it and several othe rthe video proves regardless if you believe it or not. You call it spin the rest of us call it fact. Once again the right is on the wrong side. The great thing is we are seeing the death of the Teaailban terroist in this country.
    Context is EVERYTHING.

    No, you are saying that their goal was to shut down the government, it's not. They want a budget, the Democrats refuse that, they are shutting down the government because they can't govern.
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I would love to do away with the Republican idea of the individual mandate and replace it with a public option or single payer...but that is something to work on down the road. It isn't something to hold the American public hostage over and try to force negotiations at gunpoint.
    Why not work on it now, before it has time to really f**k the country up?
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A large majority of Americans oppose Obamacare. Are the Libbos going to listen?
    I think that's been answered.
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    That "rammed it down our throats" line never ceases to amuse. It was "rammed down our throats" by compromising the original plan to more align with right wing ideas, including basically replacing it with Romney's program in Massachusetts, and then passed by the democratically elected majority in both chambers of congress, then signed by the democratically elected president, and then upheld by the constitutionally empowered supreme court when challenged through the lawful channels available to detractors. When polled, the majority of Americans support the provisions of the law. At this point, "rammed down our throats" means whatever you don't like.
    It was passed with unanimous Republican opposition. Not one Republican vote.

    That is the epitome of "Rammed down throats."
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Americans deluged with Republican lies support ACA more than ObamaCare. Go figure.

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