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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Speaking of slavery: Wasn't the U.S. the last major nation to denounce slavery? Just as we will be the last major nation to offer a public option for health care. It is going to happen, the question is when.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Slavery was the act of treating a human being as property. That you cannot understand why your comparison fails is for you to figure out.
    Which was upheld by the Supreme Court. Jim Crow Laws were also upheld by The Supreme Court. At one time both were "The Law of the Land".

    You're acting like Obamacare isn't an invasion of privacy and a breach of private property laws and The Constitution. It also includes an authoritarian mandate. Instead of one race being bullied by The Government, it's now the entire country. #Foreward!


    The Iraq war was funded via deficit spending, during a period of economic growth. Sending our troops to kill or be killed is not the same thing as domestic health care reform. Imagine how much stronger the economy would have been had that money been spent domestically instead of destroying and then rebuilding a ME nation.
    I realize now why you only stick to economic topics where all you ever do is advocate massive Government borrowing and spending.

    Not even the unions want Obamacare. The "law of the land" is CRUSHING our economy right now and is driving the country faster towards bankruptcy. You keep defeating your own arguments with your own words. It's comical watching you stray out of your usual schtick with hilarious results

    Show me where i screamed anything of the sort. Hence, your response is invalid.
    We've had enough economic debates for me to know you've been blaming the debt for years on "Bush's tax cuts". Democrats for years whined and cried they needed to be repealed, knowing they were going to expire. You know this is true. I know this is true. Par for the course though, you feign ignorance because you're strawman was just kicked aside like a tin can.

    A poor comparison is a poor comparison; it has nothing to do with your perception of my ability to logically counter it.
    Don't come back at me with "poor comparison" because you can't refute it. That's lazy and only shows how limited your critical thinking skills actually are. Slavery was "The law of the land" at one time in this country. The Supreme Court said so. The Founders purposely designed our Government to give people the power to combat authoritarian narcissists like Obama who they knew would get elected and ram through tyranny like this.

    This "law of the land" argument is paper thin strawman at best. This country was founded by Revolutionaries who refused to accept "The Law of the Land" because it infringed on their unalienable rights. So not only do you not understand Economics, you also don't know History.

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Speaking of slavery: Wasn't the U.S. the last major nation to denounce slavery? Just as we will be the last major nation to offer a public option for health care. It is going to happen, the question is when.
    No, in fact slavery still exists in at least one African nation.
    Last edited by clownboy; 10-02-13 at 01:34 PM.

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Which was upheld by the Supreme Court. Jim Crow Laws were also upheld by The Supreme Court. At one time both were "The Law of the Land".
    If you can't understand the difference between allowing a certain subset of the population to own another human being and reforming health care, then i don't know what to tell you other than... sorry.

    I realize now why you only stick to economic topics where all you ever do is advocate massive Government borrowing and spending.
    So instead of discussing the topic, you want to discuss me.

    Not even the unions want Obamacare. The "law of the land" is CRUSHING our economy right now and is driving the country faster towards bankruptcy. You keep defeating your own arguments with your own words. It's comical watching you stray out of your usual schtick with hilarious results
    You continue to compound opinionated drivel and unsubstantiated claims.

    We've had enough economic debates for me to know you've been blaming the debt for years on "Bush's tax cuts".
    A portion of the debt accumulated throughout the Bush years was a function of the "Bush tax cuts".

    Democrats for years whined and cried they needed to be repealed, knowing they were going to expire. You know this is true. I know this is true. Par for the course though, you feign ignorance because you're strawman was just kicked aside like a tin can.
    You are not responding to the democrats who whined and cried, nor will i act as a proxy for you to voice your disdain for them.

    Slavery was "The law of the land" at one time in this country. The Supreme Court said so. The Founders purposely designed our Government to give people the power to combat authoritarian narcissists like Obama who they knew would get elected and ram through tyranny like this.
    It has ZERO to do with the current debacle in Congress. You are using your opinion to verify the notion that the ACA is akin to slavery; which goes to show just how desperate you and your ideology have become.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    There should be a law similar to Godwin's Law, but instead of comparisons with Nazism, it describes how tea party types compare any rational federal law to slavery within 2 posts.

    I hereby christen it Joaquin's Law.

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, in fact slavery still exists in at least one African nation.
    Slavery existed during WWII; your post does not address my comment.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    There should be a law similar to Godwin's Law, but instead of comparisons with Nazism, it describes how tea party types compare any rational federal law to slavery within 2 posts.

    I hereby christen it Joaquin's Law.
    Godwin's Law doesn't apply if the shoe fits

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    That's assuming that most people get their news from watching news channels.
    If TV were to stop tomorrow.... I mean, if TV signals just ceased permanently, and all televisions sets went blank forever, you would see the suicide rate in this country skyrocket, despite the billions of books that would still exist. Why? Because I am convinced that some people would rather die than have to think for themselves.
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Godwin's Law doesn't apply if the shoe fits

    Obamacare = Fascism
    How does "Facism" equate with a law that passed both houses of a democratically elected Congress and was upheld against a Constitutional Challenge by the Supreme Court of the United States of America? Your response should be very interesting.......
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