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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    True, they have not accomplished it. However, and I have no insider info, I believe their mindset is that they will get the delay or the gov't will remain "shutdown" for lack of better terms.
    So - just for reference, what's the end game? Government is shut down - fine: Then what? ObamaCare is still going through. People are opposed to the GOP orchestrated shut down and there will be hell to pay next election. You think those 60 seats people keep bragging about will be safe? Lol. Here is what will happen:

    1. Republicans will lose their choke hold on the house - I'd say anywhere from 20-30 seats.
    2. Democrats will remain in control of Senate.
    3. A Democrat will be elected President in 2016 after it's pointed out that the current GOP congressmen tried to shut down government because they didn't like a bill that was CONSTITUTIONALLY passed by Congress and signed by a legally elected president.

    Who do you think is going to want to be at the forefront of the cluster bomb that is the 2016 GOP Presidential election? You think any GOP congressman is going to want to take responsibility for holding the paychecks of millions of US employees hostage? You think any GOP member is going to walk up and say "Hey, I helped shut down Yosemite because I didn't like some healthcare legislation?" - Lol. Get outtahurr.
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    will the republicans try to demand the delay of the affordable care act in exchange for raiseing the debt ceiling.
    Hold on, let me go ask John.
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So - just for reference, what's the end game? Government is shut down - fine: Then what? ObamaCare is still going through. People are opposed to the GOP orchestrated shut down and there will be hell to pay next election. You think those 60 seats people keep bragging about will be safe? Lol. Here is what will happen:

    1. Republicans will lose their choke hold on the house - I'd say anywhere from 20-30 seats.
    2. Democrats will remain in control of Senate.
    3. A Democrat will be elected President in 2016 after it's pointed out that the current GOP congressmen tried to shut down government because they didn't like a bill that was CONSTITUTIONALLY passed by Congress and signed by a legally elected president.

    Who do you think is going to want to be at the forefront of the cluster bomb that is the 2016 GOP Presidential election? You think any GOP congressman is going to want to take responsibility for holding the paychecks of millions of US employees hostage? You think any GOP member is going to walk up and say "Hey, I helped shut down Yosemite because I didn't like some healthcare legislation?" - Lol. Get outtahurr.
    I think this will be forgotten about next year honestly. It really will. There are many issues that will arise between now and then. Our society can't remember what happened last week bro.
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Hold on, let me go ask John.
    he can't even control his own caucus. they seem to respond to more to ted cruz, who is a senator not a member of the house.

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No...your premise that it is something to write home about is flawed. As I said. Condescension fail, Einstein.
    Okay - are you reading what I said? I said it's actually nothing to write about. She won in a district that was Republican before and has swung back and forth. Do you understand what "nothing to write home about" means?
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    he can't even control his own caucus. they seem to respond to more to ted cruz, who is a senator not a member of the house.
    Just in case you didn't know, I'm not a member of the House. You act as if I'm appearing on CSPAN right now.
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So - just for reference, what's the end game? Government is shut down - fine: Then what? ObamaCare is still going through. People are opposed to the GOP orchestrated shut down and there will be hell to pay next election. You think those 60 seats people keep bragging about will be safe? Lol. Here is what will happen:

    1. Republicans will lose their choke hold on the house - I'd say anywhere from 20-30 seats.
    2. Democrats will remain in control of Senate.
    3. A Democrat will be elected President in 2016 after it's pointed out that the current GOP congressmen tried to shut down government because they didn't like a bill that was CONSTITUTIONALLY passed by Congress and signed by a legally elected president.

    Who do you think is going to want to be at the forefront of the cluster bomb that is the 2016 GOP Presidential election? You think any GOP congressman is going to want to take responsibility for holding the paychecks of millions of US employees hostage? You think any GOP member is going to walk up and say "Hey, I helped shut down Yosemite because I didn't like some healthcare legislation?" - Lol. Get outtahurr.
    Your just dreaming. This will be a non issue in 2014 and 2016 and wont cost the republicans a single seat. Gingrich didn't lose the House and neither will Boehner. This whole thing is just liberal hyperventilation.

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Just in case you didn't know, I'm not a member of the House. You act as if I'm appearing on CSPAN right now.
    so your previous comment was a joke?

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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I think this will be forgotten about next year honestly. It really will. There are many issues that will arise between now and then. Our society can't remember what happened last week bro.
    What happened after Republicans shut down government in 1995? Clinton won by a landslide (379 electoral votes). Obama isn't up for re-election next year. So the immediate effects of this issue will be felt in the 2014 rep. election.
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    Re: Poll: Americans reject GOP shutdown strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I think this will be forgotten about next year honestly. It really will. There are many issues that will arise between now and then. Our society can't remember what happened last week bro.
    That depends on whether it really affects the average American in some way. If it doesn't, Democrats were right not to negotiate because it was no big deal to have the government shut down. If it does, Democrats were right not to negotiate because no one should give in to these kinds of threats. This is a win - win for Democrats all the way around.
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