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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    For the same reason that Obamacare would force people who already have insurance into a whole new insurance regime.

    If Obamacare is so awesome, why not put everyone on it?
    Um, possibly because....it was designed from the start to get those WITHOUT insurance..... to purchase it.

    Have you forgotten the basics?
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, possibly because....it was designed from the start to get those WITHOUT insurance..... to purchase it.

    Have you forgotten the basics?
    Oh, is that what it's for? LMAO!!!! Two-thousand pages, just to force people to purchase health insurance???

    If that's the case, then everyone who already has health insurance should receive the same exemption.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    The debt limit doesn't limit future spending, it pays for spending that's already been passed.

    Congress doesn't have a credit limit, but they do have to pay their bills. They can vote to spend whatever they want and sell T bills to make up the difference. They can continue to do this until they can't pay for what they spend. If that happens,T note will be risky investments. They'll demand high rates. The cost of financing the debt will explode destroying the US economy.

    And all of this happens if GOP refuses to pay for what they spent. Not raising the debt ceiling would harm the US more than any terrorist ever could.
    I wonder which Obama is accurate and which one the Obamabots support?

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Because that is not what the AHC act was about. It is meant to allow the UNINSURED to finally be able to purchase HC. That is its purpose. I am not surprised that you are clueless about it most who oppose it are.
    So, raising insurance premiums is supposed to allow uninsured folks to more easily purchase insurance??
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    The debt limit doesn't limit future spending, it pays for spending that's already been passed.

    Congress doesn't have a credit limit, but they do have to pay their bills. They can vote to spend whatever they want and sell T bills to make up the difference. They can continue to do this until they can't pay for what they spend. If that happens,T note will be risky investments. They'll demand high rates. The cost of financing the debt will explode destroying the US economy.

    And all of this happens if GOP refuses to pay for what they spent. Not raising the debt ceiling would harm the US more than any terrorist ever could.
    Raising the debt limit pays for nothing. It creates more debt.

    You can try this at home. Get in touch with your credit card(s) companies and get them to raise your limit. Then go out and max the card(s) out.


    Get back with us on how raising your debt limits paid for anything.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, possibly because....it was designed from the start to get those WITHOUT insurance..... to purchase it.

    Have you forgotten the basics?
    Morning there Gimmie,

    Can you please point me to the part in the Constitution of the United States where the authority lies for the government to 'Force' people to buy any private product?
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, is that what it's for? LMAO!!!! Two-thousand pages, just to force people to purchase health insurance???

    If that's the case, then everyone who already has health insurance should receive the same exemption.
    The same "exemption".....that if you have employer provided insurance, you should be forced to drop it so that you have to purchase insurance on the private market? The purpose being......what?
    I mean if the grand idea is to delink insurance from employment....fine.....but that is not the intent, your intent is to try to blow up the whole plan.......which was originally a conservative plan to counter single payer/socialized medicine.

    It still amazes me how this point is still lost on cons.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Actually its purpose is to take the over burdened middle class health care system and share it with the poor and under privileged so they will continue to vote for democrats. The elites aren't being touched as is evidenced in the fact the congress exempts itself, the administration exempted itself, large corps exempted, and public employee unions exempted.


    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Because that is not what the AHC act was about. It is meant to allow the UNINSURED to finally be able to purchase HC. That is its purpose. I am not surprised that you are clueless about it most who oppose it are.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Morning there Gimmie,

    Can you please point me to the part in the Constitution of the United States where the authority lies for the government to 'Force' people to buy any private product?
    Good luck getting an answer to that one from any Obama supporter for you see the Constitution doesn't matter nor do economic results when it comes to Obama and Obamanomics. Apparently negative results only matter when a Republican is in the WH

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The same "exemption".....that if you have employer provided insurance, you should be forced to drop it so that you have to purchase insurance on the private market? The purpose being......what?
    I mean if the grand idea is to delink insurance from employment....fine.....but that is not the intent, your intent is to try to blow up the whole plan.......which was originally a conservative plan to counter single payer/socialized medicine.

    It still amazes me how this point is still lost on cons.
    Still sticking to it being Heritage's plan eh, even when that has been debunked....
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