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    Obama needs to hold firm.

    The House needs to fund all discretionary spending. No games. No tricks. No bull**** about ObamaCare.

    If they want to kill ObamaCare or halt it for a year, they can pass a bill once the government is funded.

    The House needs to stop playing games.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    Obama needs to hold firm.

    The House needs to fund all discretionary spending. No games. No tricks. No bull**** about ObamaCare.

    If they want to kill ObamaCare or halt it for a year, they can pass a bill once the government is funded.

    The House needs to stop playing games.
    Right, Obama is the only one allowed to play games, right? He is allowed to make changes in the law to suit him and the Representatives of the people aren't? Is that liberal logic if there is such a thing? Why is Obama entitled to give exemptions for this incredible law that so many are touting and not allow the Republicans to ask for the removal of those exemptions? The only compromise ever with a liberal is giving them whatever they want and that isn't the way compromise works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, Obama is the only one allowed to play games, right? He is allowed to make changes in the law to suit him and the Representatives of the people aren't? Is that liberal logic if there is such a thing? Why is Obama entitled to give exemptions for this incredible law that so many are touting and not allow the Republicans to ask for the removal of those exemptions? The only compromise ever with a liberal is giving them whatever they want and that isn't the way compromise works.
    If the House has some intelligent and meaningful reasons as to why the Individual Mandate should be delayed for a year I welcome them to present these reasons to Obama and the Senate.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    If the House has some intelligent and meaningful reasons as to why the Individual Mandate should be delayed for a year I welcome them to present these reasons to Obama and the Senate.
    So Obama is the only person allowed to make changes to the law passed by Congress? Negotiations are only ok for Obama to give exemptions to campaign supporters and other pro Obama entities? You don't have a problem with that? Hard to present them to Obama and Harry Reid neither of who will listen. You put so much faith in Obama and Reid and the question is why? What have they done that they promised to do? Name for me just one Obama prediction and projection that has been proven accurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So Obama is the only person allowed to make changes to the law passed by Congress? Negotiations are only ok for Obama to give exemptions to campaign supporters and other pro Obama entities? You don't have a problem with that? Hard to present them to Obama and Harry Reid neither of who will listen. You put so much faith in Obama and Reid and the question is why? What have they done that they promised to do? Name for me just one Obama prediction and projection that has been proven accurate?
    Well you see, The President of the United States has certain discretionary authority when it comes to his enforcement of goverment programs.

    He can prioritize or deprioritize them.

    Congress on the other hand has to pass a bill if they want to kill a program, defund it, weaken it, kill it, etc.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    Well you see, The President of the United States has certain discretionary authority when it comes to his enforcement of goverment programs.

    He can prioritize or deprioritize them.

    Congress on the other hand has to pass a bill if they want to kill a program, defund it, weaken it, kill it, etc.
    Right, defunding is what the Republicans are doing which is the will of the people who sent them to Congress and gave them control of the House. You see, it is the Democrats that shut down the govt. because funding bills begin in the House, the House sent a funding bill to the Senate and the Senate rejected it refusing to negotiate. Liberals all over the country don't understand how funding bills are created and passed. Republicans are asking for the elimination of all exemptions as their bottom line so tell me why would you support exemptions from such a liberal claimed wonderful bill?

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

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    Right, defunding is what the Republicans are doing which is the will of the people who sent them to Congress and gave them control of the House. You see, it is the Democrats that shut down the govt. because funding bills begin in the House, the House sent a funding bill to the Senate and the Senate rejected it refusing to negotiate. Liberals all over the country don't understand how funding bills are created and passed. Republicans are asking for the elimination of all exemptions as their bottom line so tell me why would you support exemptions from such a liberal claimed wonderful bill?
    The Senate also represents the will of the People.

    As does the choice of President.

    The 2012 Election was a referendum on ObamaCare, and ObamaCare won.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    But if you call it ACA it is even more popular.
    Imagine if the parents of ACA, HeritageCare, were helping instead of sabotaging.
    Yet you can say that across the economic board.
    How many private sector jobs created last month?
    How many straight months of private sector job growth since the end of the ----recession?

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    Well you see, The President of the United States has certain discretionary authority when it comes to his enforcement of goverment programs.

    He can prioritize or deprioritize them.

    Congress on the other hand has to pass a bill if they want to kill a program, defund it, weaken it, kill it, etc.
    One of the checks and balances against an out of control president is that Congress has the power of the purse strings. They can decide to not fund anything they want.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    If the House has some intelligent and meaningful reasons as to why the Individual Mandate should be delayed for a year I welcome them to present these reasons to Obama and the Senate.
    Ask Obama

    He's the one who exempted his political cronies and corporate pals from the mandate

    Illegally I might add

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    The Senate also represents the will of the People.

    As does the choice of President.

    The 2012 Election was a referendum on ObamaCare, and ObamaCare won.
    Bull

    The law was purposely delayed until after the election and it was the last thing Obama wanted to talk about during the election. The only thing the Obots wanted to talk about during the election was Romney killed some guy's wife and binders filled with women.

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