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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...you are obviously part of the 17% of the Country that is buying that propoganda. Fortunately...the vast majority of the country knows exactly what is going on. The spin isn't working....but keep trying....
    Do you get paid by the response you make or by posts responding to you. Good supplemental pay?

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Do you even know what the Constitution says? LOL.....you obviously are no Constitutional Scholar if you believe that today's GOP is even anywhere near following Constitutional Mandates and Guarantees. The right-wing has for decades been trying to subjugate the US Constitution and they have been successful in finally finding the teabaggers who can bring the once proud and mighty Republican party to its knees....and I'm loving every minute of it. I suspect that the moderate Republicans are going to revolt and take back their party....but I hope and pray that they continue to be spineless and cowtow to the whims of the teabaggers who have them by the balls.
    I didn't realize that only Constitutional scholars can read the Constitution. Then you claim it's the GOP violating the Constitution, I think. It is tough to follow with all the slurs, name calling, and hyperbole. And of course you want the republicans to stay spineless and cave in to the democrats as they shred the Constitution and destroy my country. Why would you want conservatives to get us back on track and protect our liberties? The Constitution PROTECTS us from an out of control, big government, the exact opposite of what the left wants.

    How about a few examples of them not following "Constitutional mandates and guarantees"?

    Remember when Obama declared Congress in recess and made his little appointments? What about all his "czars" (you libs must love that word) to bypass Congress? Didn't he declare DOMA unconstitutional and decided he would pick and choose what laws he will enforce. You're right, I'm no Constitutional scholar, so maybe you can help me find those powers in the Constitution?

    Where does the Constitution give him the power to waive parts of the ACA for entities that he chooses? Oh, and show me the requirement to purchase healthcare while you are at it.

    You made some big claims, let's see you back them up.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    One obvious difference is that blackmail doesn't necessarily mean violence. Terrorism ALWAYS includes violence.
    If that's the case then you're certainly correct. However, I wouldn't assume that terrorism necessarily mandates violence or threats of violence.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...you are obviously part of the 17% of the Country that is buying that propoganda. Fortunately...the vast majority of the country knows exactly what is going on. The spin isn't working....but keep trying....
    LOL. No spin in what I posted. Just the facts. Why is it that you want nothing to do with what has actually happened? Your spin hasn't happened. You keep making stuff up. But the facts don't change with the amount of spin you spew out.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you get paid by the response you make or by posts responding to you. Good supplemental pay?
    Kind of reminds me of Obama. No matter how wrong he is proven to be, he just goes on as if he was right! He just told us the other day that the ACA is cutting costs and bringing the deficit down. LOL!
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. No spin in what I posted. Just the facts. Why is it that you want nothing to do with what has actually happened? Your spin hasn't happened. You keep making stuff up. But the facts don't change with the amount of spin you spew out.
    Really? Do you actually believe that it is the other way around? That the public is behind the teabaggers and their ploys? If so, you probably also bought into the idea that Romney was going to win on election day in a landslide....and we all know how that one turned out. You would think that you would have learned not to trust your propoganda sources when they turn out to be wrong time and time again.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    If that's the case then you're certainly correct. However, I wouldn't assume that terrorism necessarily mandates violence or threats of violence.
    But it does mandate violence. A terrorist uses violence (perferablly mass violence) to create wide spread terror. That is the difference between a terrorist and say...a bank robber. A terrorist will cause violence first in order to create wide spread terror. A bank robber will use threats of violence, but not necessarily actual violence, to a select few in order to create terror. In other words there is a difference between "terror" and "terrorIST".

    If you wanted to get technical/semantical and big time speak generally then anything that created terror in even one person could be considered "terrorist" like. But that is not what "terrorist" means nor how it is applied. If we start applying it generally then it becomes something which could make it to where any little thing could get someone charged for being a terrorist, and you can bet that the punishment would be the same as if it were actually real terrorists.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But it does mandate violence. A terrorist uses violence (perferablly mass violence) to create wide spread terror. That is the difference between a terrorist and say...a bank robber. A terrorist will cause violence first in order to create wide spread terror. A bank robber will use threats of violence, but not necessarily actual violence, to a select few in order to create terror. In other words there is a difference between "terror" and "terrorIST".

    If you wanted to get technical/semantical and big time speak generally then anything that created terror in even one person could be considered "terrorist" like. But that is not what "terrorist" means nor how it is applied. If we start applying it generally then it becomes something which could make it to where any little thing could get someone charged for being a terrorist, and you can bet that the punishment would be the same as if it were actually real terrorists.
    I stand corrected, it does require violence. So blackmail would be the proper word as the Tea Party is threatening vandalism, not violence.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    I stand corrected, it does require violence. So blackmail would be the proper word as the Tea Party is threatening vandalism, not violence.
    I'll accept blackmail. But honestly it is apparently OK to blackmail in the government. Both sides have done it so much its pathetic. Hell, blue dog democrats even black mailed their own party just to pass Obamacare.

    Actually...now that I think about it....I can't even remember the last time anyone in our government actually NEGOTIATED. Maybe Clinton? Because I'm pretty sure that Bush never did and I know that Obama sure hasn't. Our last two presidents have pretty much always (if not then mostly) used blackmail in their dealings....with the rest of our polticians following suit....or leading it. Depends on your POV.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....you're talking points come straight from LIMBAUGH....you aren't fooling a soul on this site Con......You can trace your posts almost to a T on what Limbaugh said the previous day.......
    Leftists are all ad hom when they can't respond sensibly to a post.

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