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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
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    board needs more insights like that.


    I don't see it as an insight, but it is a fact that bothers the GOP which they will not be able to change any time soon.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Well lets see now. The House has done what the Constitution requires and provided to the Senate and the President the means to fund the government. The Senate and the President say they are not interested and refuse to do what is required to for the entire government to get back to business as usual. It's on them, not the House, not the GOP.

    The longer this goes on, with the House offer still on the table more and more people will see the Dems and the President as the problem. Which they are. Simple fix for everything but one item and that one item being one the American people have never and still, don't want. Things worked out fine for the GOP last time a Dem put the country through this. It will this time as well.
    Wrong. The House has decided that it is going to engage in a series of extortionist gameplaying political grandstanding ploys because they don't like a law that was passed by both houses of Congress and upheld by the United States Supreme Court after a Constitutional challenge was raised. They are engaging in the same type of tactics that terrorists/kidnappers use to try to force negotiation of things that are not subject to negotiation.
    I hope that you are correct and that the teabaggers continue in the same gameplaying that they are. The overwhelming majority of the country sees right through the games that they are playing...what makes you think that there is going to be a sudden swaying of public opinion? Good luck with that.....I for one am loving watching the teabaggers bring about the destruction of the Republican brand...its something that the Democrats haven't been able to accomplish and bodes well for the Democrats and for the entire country.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Being Clinton's fault and happening when Clinton was President are two different things. I posted the Clinton PDB showing he was warned about terrorists using aircraft to attack this country but of course you ignored that. 9/11 happened in 2001, and Bin Laden was captured during Obama's term so now exactly what is your point? What does any of that have to do with the very poor Obama economic performance and lack of leadership? What does any of this have to do with you being in La La land having no concept of what is going on throughout the country?

    You do nothing but divert from the data, fail to offer your own economic data, and always blame someone else for "your" President's failures. That is liberalism and why we have problems in this country today. An honest discussion with you and any other liberal is buying your bull**** and not posting verifiable facts that refute it.
    It simply puts your posts and mentality into perspective and explains why no one should put a great deal of weight into your ramblings and criticisms. When Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are your sources of reality.....it explains clearly why you come up with the stuff that you do. Carry on.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Well lets see now. The House has done what the Constitution requires and provided to the Senate and the President the means to fund the government. The Senate and the President say they are not interested and refuse to do what is required to for the entire government to get back to business as usual. It's on them, not the House, not the GOP.

    The longer this goes on, with the House offer still on the table more and more people will see the Dems and the President as the problem. Which they are. Simple fix for everything but one item and that one item being one the American people have never and still, don't want. Things worked out fine for the GOP last time a Dem put the country through this. It will this time as well.
    It seems too many people don't believe a $17,000,000,000,000 debt is a problem, nor the estimated $70 trillion in committed debts either, but that free health care can also be added to these debts with only positive consequences for the economy. This is fiscal insanity, and appears to be deliberate.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wrong. The House has decided that it is going to engage in a series of extortionist gameplaying political grandstanding ploys because they don't like a law that was passed by both houses of Congress and upheld by the United States Supreme Court after a Constitutional challenge was raised. They are engaging in the same type of tactics that terrorists/kidnappers use to try to force negotiation of things that are not subject to negotiation.
    I hope that you are correct and that the teabaggers continue in the same gameplaying that they are. The overwhelming majority of the country sees right through the games that they are playing...what makes you think that there is going to be a sudden swaying of public opinion? Good luck with that.....I for one am loving watching the teabaggers bring about the destruction of the Republican brand...its something that the Democrats haven't been able to accomplish and bodes well for the Democrats and for the entire country.
    Nope. I suggest you review what has happened over the last few days. The House has clearly met it's responsibilities. The Dems in the Senate and the President have not. The partial shut down of the federal government is all on the Dems. Spinning or lying about things will not change facts.
    "“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf — places like Charleston, South Carolina; or Savannah, Georgia; or Jacksonville, Florida…” -Obama

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It simply puts your posts and mentality into perspective and explains why no one should put a great deal of weight into your ramblings and criticisms. When Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are your sources of reality.....it explains clearly why you come up with the stuff that you do. Carry on.
    keep diverting from what you said which was that I claimed 9/11 occurred on Clinton's watch which of course is just another lie on your part. Your claim that I stated Bin Laden was captured by Bush is another lie. You just cannot seem to get anything right including your lack of understanding that the House is "the Peoples' House" and is under Republican Control. Now you claim I listen to Hannity and Limbaugh which I haven't done in well over a year as I was too busy taking care of a sick wife. You clearly don't have a clue as to what you are talking about but most Disneyland employees are in the same boat, probably riding around all day in "It's a Small World"

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems too many people don't believe a $17,000,000,000,000 debt is a problem, nor the estimated $70 trillion in committed debts either, but that free health care can also be added to these debts with only positive consequences for the economy. This is fiscal insanity, and appears to be deliberate.
    It is deliberate. The -ists plan for and want complete failure. That way just about everybody but the -ists in power have no choice but to become another stooge for an all powerful government.
    "“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf — places like Charleston, South Carolina; or Savannah, Georgia; or Jacksonville, Florida…” -Obama

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    keep diverting from what you said which was that I claimed 9/11 occurred on Clinton's watch which of course is just another lie on your part. Your claim that I stated Bin Laden was captured by Bush is another lie. You just cannot seem to get anything right including your lack of understanding that the House is "the Peoples' House" and is under Republican Control. Now you claim I listen to Hannity and Limbaugh which I haven't done in well over a year as I was too busy taking care of a sick wife. You clearly don't have a clue as to what you are talking about but most Disneyland employees are in the same boat, probably riding around all day in "It's a Small World"
    LOL....you're talking points come straight from LIMBAUGH....you aren't fooling a soul on this site Con......You can trace your posts almost to a T on what Limbaugh said the previous day.......
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Nope. I suggest you review what has happened over the last few days. The House has clearly met it's responsibilities. The Dems in the Senate and the President have not. The partial shut down of the federal government is all on the Dems. Spinning or lying about things will not change facts.
    LOL...you are obviously part of the 17% of the Country that is buying that propoganda. Fortunately...the vast majority of the country knows exactly what is going on. The spin isn't working....but keep trying....
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....you're talking points come straight from LIMBAUGH....you aren't fooling a soul on this site Con......You can trace your posts almost to a T on what Limbaugh said the previous day.......
    How would you know, do you listen to Limbaugh? Is that on break time from "It's a Small World?" You seem to believe that anyone who disagrees with you and sites actual data lacks credibility when the person lacking credibility is you. Teabaggers? your new favorite term? Obviously you have no sense of history not knowing what the original TEA Party was all about nor what T.E.A. Party today stands for. Just a typical liberal how has to rely on the Federal Taxpayer to fund your state because of liberal failures. Find that state surplus yet

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