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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Because if you're not offering something in return then it's blackmail. Unless the GOP can get 60 votes in the Senate, control of the house, and control of the Presidency the ACA is going into effect. It's already law. And while one could argue that the Democrats compromised by giving up a single payer system, it's really irrelevant to the present debate. We are where we are.

    But really, this is just a dress rehearsal for the debt ceiling. .
    Something which both sides do.

    Also you should note that "blackmail" is a far more accurate word than "terrorist".
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    And you called how they rammed the passage of that law past congress "democracy." Really - you'd make fascist stalin proud.
    As I feared, you and your side has decided that America's form of Govt. is not for them. We have a word for those types and it is not pretty.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    As I feared, you and your side has decided that America's form of Govt. is not for them. We have a word for those types and it is not pretty.
    7 years ago the shoe was on the other foot. Does the same un-pretty word still apply?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not screwed up at all. Terrorists often take hostages to try to negotiate things that they don't have a right to negotiate. This is exactly what the Republicans are trying to do here.
    No, terrorists use violent acts to try and get what they want. Where is the violence being done here?
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Once again your facts are wrong. I guess it is easy to "support" your position when you make up your own statistics.

    You should take a look at the facts....under a Democratic Governor, California now has a budget surplus after years of deficits under Republican control.
    A budget surplus that doesn't pay down the debt? That is liberal math and typical of what I expect from you. When was the last time the Republicans controlled the purse strings of California?

    Interesting how projected surpluses always equal more debt in the long run. Interesting math skills your state has.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. I have made mistakes in my life, like everyone. Nowadays I can't believe that back in the 80's I actually did vote for a couple of democrats. That was a bad idea on my part. But I won't repeat that bad idea ever again.
    You voted for Reagan instead and he just mandated that hospitals must treat every patient no matter what their insurance of financial status. Who do you think pays for that?

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You voted for Reagan instead and he just mandated that hospitals must treat every patient no matter what their insurance of financial status. Who do you think pays for that?
    I thought that came from a SCOTUS decision.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No, terrorists use violent acts to try and get what they want. Where is the violence being done here?
    Stealing 800,000 workers income against their will is pretty nasty stuff. I think I will just take your paycheck for a few weeks and see if you think it is "violent" enough.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You voted for Reagan instead and he just mandated that hospitals must treat every patient no matter what their insurance of financial status. Who do you think pays for that?
    The people of the state, not the Federal taxpayers thus making the issue of the uninsured a state issue, not a federal one.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Stealing 800,000 workers income against their will is pretty nasty stuff. I think I will just take your paycheck for a few weeks and see if you think it is "violent" enough.
    Glad to see that the mandate in the ACA is stealing ones' paycheck and you now agree that Obamacare is a disaster.

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