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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You are acting like you don't know that millions are denied health care coverage for a multitude of reasons under the OLD system? Have you ever heard of pre-existing conditions? Of lifetime caps on coverage?
    Pre-existing conditions didn't prevent people from getting insurance, it might have delayed it but not prevent it. Obamacare does pretty much the same thing with its enrollment procedures.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You don't have to buy insurance....you can continue to be irresponsible.

    You are making a stance for the "right" to be irresponsible.....that is fine with me.
    This is your attempt to be dishonest here....I didn't say that, and I explained what I am saying, so you can stop with this attempt right now.

    Now, answer the question I asked you.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    you use the term millions because that is what you are being told. You don't need the ACA to get that small percentage insured but what you are ignoring are the actual millions who are eligible for insurance but CHOOSE not to participate and the millions eligible for Medicaid that don't sign up for Medicaid thus are called uninsured. You see, personal responsibility doesn't exist in your world.
    What a bunch of nonsensical gibberish, a complete meltdown of a post.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So your answer is no, I didn't know that people are denied coverage for pre-existing conditions? You need to do some reading.
    And your answer is we need ACA because Obama and liberals say so. "I don't have specific knowledge of the numbers of people being denied coverage but I believe everything Obama and the liberal elite tells me" You actually think we need ACA because people are being denied insurance because of pre existing conditions? Wow!

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And your answer is we need ACA because Obama and liberals say so. "I don't have specific knowledge of the numbers of people being denied coverage but I believe everything Obama and the liberal elite tells me" You actually think we need ACA because people are being denied insurance because of pre existing conditions? Wow!
    Amazing, isn't i? Some people actually believe this is a health"care" law.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You don't have to buy insurance....you can continue to be irresponsible.
    That's not necessarily being "irresponsible". At all.
    "“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf — places like Charleston, South Carolina; or Savannah, Georgia; or Jacksonville, Florida…” -Obama

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That is up to your employer to a certain extent.
    In other words, the Grassley provision is the opposite of what the PPACA mandates to private employer insurance coverage.

    Or.....were you not following along with the context of that discussion?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    LOL.....yes it was a super-secret Heritage plan that was never talked about.....except by Gingrich...or implemented by Romney......sshhhh...don't tell anyone.

    The denial is funny.
    This is more dishonesty. I never said that Heritage's plan was "super secret" or anything of the kind....or that "it was never talked about".... That is your characterization. What was talked about by Gingrich in the '80s, or implemented in a state by its Governor are not what is going on here.

    During the 80's under Gingrich, the "Catastrophic Care act" was passed in 88, and literally repealed one year later....The people didn't want this crap then, and they don't want it today. As for Romney, and Mass. That is where this should be, not in the federal government.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    That's not necessarily being "irresponsible". At all.
    Living without health insurance...is not irresponsible.

    Parents are very comfortable with that concept.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    In other words, the Grassley provision is the opposite of what the PPACA mandates to private employer insurance coverage.

    Or.....were you not following along with the context of that discussion?
    ON that part of the discussion I wasn't following along, bring me up to speed with how you think the Grassley Provision mandates/or doesn't mandate private employer coverage...
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