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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Yet? I didn't know that was my job, but I did manage to show that not raising the debt ceiling will make the debt impossible to pay off. I'd think that sufficient to answer you question.

    Even though the amount of debt has exploded, the low interest rates has kept the cost of servicing the debt very low. But those interest rates will go up substantially if we default. This will exponentially increase the cost to service the debt.

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    Even now, the ludicrously childish House Tea Partiers are making it more expensive to borrow money. The net effect is an INCREASE in government spending.
    Of course they want to waste more money that is how they plan on destroying America and recreating it in the billionaires image. A country of Serfs and Lords.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The thing that makes sense is Congress should always be forced into programs they create and live under all the same rules and regulations that apply to the rest of us.
    This again shows the lack of understanding, Congressional employees already have employer provided insurance, the PPACA is not mandating that other employee provided insurance be ended....so no, it was not a provision "we all have to live with".....it is the opposite.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course it's a right. The Libbos actually pay people to be irresponsible.
    Remind me.....how is this an argument against a law to get people to buy insurance?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Who is denying millions coverage? where in the hell do you get your information and what is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty and ignorance?
    Are you denying that there are millions of Americans without healthcare coverage or that the AHC act was written to address that problem?

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. And the millions of new qualifiers for Medicaid are purchasing it how? What prevented anybody from purchasing health insurance to begin with?

    Somebody else is "clueless" on this issue? LOL.
    You are hopelessly out of touch.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Remind me.....how is this an argument against a law to get people to by insurance?
    It's an argument against your contention that it should be illegal to be irresponsible.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    This again shows the lack of understanding, Congressional employees already have employer provided insurance, the PPACA is not mandating that other employee provided insurance be ended....so no, it was not a provision "we all have to live with".....it is the opposite.
    No, you miss the point, the ACA was passed by Congress and should apply to Congress eliminating any plan they had prior to the ACA. Congress shouldn't be creating a different plan for Americans than they have for themselves.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's an argument against your contention that it should be illegal to be irresponsible.
    Okay...so you ARE arguing FOR irresponsibility!

    Good grief.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Are you denying that there are millions of Americans without healthcare coverage or that the AHC act was written to address that problem?
    There are no American citizens who don't have access to healthcare coverage. It's called medicaid and medicare.

    Basically, what you want to do, is force people who couldn't afford health insurance before, to purchase health insurance at a higher rate. Be sure and let us know how that works out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Are you denying that there are millions of Americans without healthcare coverage or that the AHC act was written to address that problem?
    Of course there are millions of Americans unemployed with most of them uninsured by choice either refusing to accept insurance or not signing up for insurance programs such as Medicaid that they are eligible for. We don't need Obamacare, we need personal responsibility. ACA doesn't address the costs or quality of healthcare, only access and when you do that you drive up costs and get less care.

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