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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Because that is not what the AHC act was about. It is meant to allow the UNINSURED to finally be able to purchase HC. That is its purpose. I am not surprised that you are clueless about it most who oppose it are.
    LOL. And the millions of new qualifiers for Medicaid are purchasing it how? What prevented anybody from purchasing health insurance to begin with?

    Somebody else is "clueless" on this issue? LOL.
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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You have yet to show me how raising the debt each year is going to pay it off.
    Yet? I didn't know that was my job, but I did manage to show that not raising the debt ceiling will make the debt impossible to pay off. I'd think that sufficient to answer you question.

    Even though the amount of debt has exploded, the low interest rates has kept the cost of servicing the debt very low. But those interest rates will go up substantially if we default. This will exponentially increase the cost to service the debt.

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    Even now, the ludicrously childish House Tea Partiers are making it more expensive to borrow money. The net effect is an INCREASE in government spending.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Morning there Gimmie,

    Can you please point me to the part in the Constitution of the United States where the authority lies for the government to 'Force' people to buy any private product?
    I never said 'force'. And besides, you already have it. But I suppose you are fighting for the right to be irresponsible.....after all, that is a guaranteed right...right?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    This is what is so weird about Grassley's provision, why would he insist that those already with insurance (Congressional employees) be forced into a whole new insurance regime? The only thing that makes sense is a sabotage.
    The thing that makes sense is Congress should always be forced into programs they create and live under all the same rules and regulations that apply to the rest of us.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Actually its purpose is to take the over burdened middle class health care system and share it with the poor and under privileged so they will continue to vote for democrats. The elites aren't being touched as is evidenced in the fact the congress exempts itself, the administration exempted itself, large corps exempted, and public employee unions exempted.
    And the Republican position is to deny millions coverage so they can gloat about how much better they are than "them".

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The same "exemption".....that if you have employer provided insurance, you should be forced to drop it so that you have to purchase insurance on the private market? The purpose being......what?
    I mean if the grand idea is to delink insurance from employment....fine.....but that is not the intent, your intent is to try to blow up the whole plan.......which was originally a conservative plan to counter single payer/socialized medicine.

    It still amazes me how this point is still lost on cons.
    Obamacare is going to blowup, all by itself.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Facts.
    They get a 70% subsidy and its NOT through the ACA.

    One of Obama's "ammendments".

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Still sticking to it being Heritage's plan eh, even when that has been debunked....
    It certainly was a concept they ascribed to. Of course there is a whole lot of walking back and scrubbing going on now.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I never said 'force'. And besides, you already have it. But I suppose you are fighting for the right to be irresponsible.....after all, that is a guaranteed right...right?
    Of course it's a right. The Libbos actually pay people to be irresponsible.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And the Republican position is to deny millions coverage so they can gloat about how much better they are than "them".
    Who is denying millions coverage? where in the hell do you get your information and what is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty and ignorance?

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