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    CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]


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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    The reason Republicans would more be blamed is more people watch pro-Democrat networks. It is the Democrats in the US Senate, not Republicans, threatening to shut down government unless they get everything they want in the budget. The budget ceiling is the law. Democrats in the Senate declare they will destroy the economy unless Republicans go along with breaking that law.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    We have a government which is driven by blame rather than common sense. Single term limits would clear a lot of that up.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The reason Republicans would more be blamed is more people watch pro-Democrat networks.
    Now, wait a minute. Wasn't it just a few months ago conservatives were boasting that the Fox News channels have the HIGHEST ratings than all the other left networks combined? Sorry, but I think that is is complete BS that you blame the media.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Actually aside from the narrative, (which is false btw) the polls I have seen have it pretty even, more along the lines of 36% blame republicans, 32% blame Democrats, and 17% blame Obama himself....

    Personally, I think that republicans do indeed share in the blame, but you can't put it all on them when people want compromise, house republicans do exactly that, and demo's come back with 'NO, our way, or nothing, and we will lie and blame you for it....!'
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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    This is not surprising. The differences have nothing to do with fiscal matters e.g., level of spending. The differences are a matter of ideology and philosophy, not fiscal details. Although the House technically passed a bill to keep the government running, that legislation contained several "poison pills" that the House knows that neither the Senate nor President can accept. Those who have been paying attention to the situation see the entire context: in effect, the House's bill is a vote for shutdown given its knowledge of what the Senate and President can and cannot accept. If a prolonged shutdown occurs, more people will examine what happened and media coverage will be intense. An increasing share of the blame will fall on the GOP and under that pressure, the more rational GOP representatives will find it easier to break from their Tea Party colleagues. Once that happens, the Tea Party's ability to effectively coerce compliance with its agenda and extreme tactics--and shutting down the government and threatening to force the nation into default by not raising the debt ceiling over a philosophical difference is extreme--will be substantially reduced. Nevertheless, damage to the GOP could last for multiple election cycles, making it more difficult for the GOP to contribute in areas where it could.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Actually aside from the narrative, (which is false btw) the polls I have seen have it pretty even, more along the lines of 36% blame republicans, 32% blame Democrats, and 17% blame Obama himself....

    Personally, I think that republicans do indeed share in the blame, but you can't put it all on them when people want compromise, house republicans do exactly that, and demo's come back with 'NO, our way, or nothing, and we will lie and blame you for it....!'
    From the posted article:

    According to the poll, which was conducted Friday through Sunday, 46% say they would blame congressional Republicans for a government shutdown, with 36% saying the president would be more responsible and 13% pointing fingers at both the GOP in Congress and Obama.

    Right now, the gap is not that large. But that will likely change if there is a prolonged shutdown and especially if the nation is forced into a debt default and/or recession if debt payments are prioritized due to the debt ceiling's not being raised.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Personally, I think that republicans do indeed share in the blame, but you can't put it all on them when people want compromise, house republicans do exactly that, and demo's come back with 'NO, our way, or nothing, and we will lie and blame you for it....!'
    The compromise the right is proposing is to get rid of Obamacare, that isn't a compromise for the Dems. The GOP is wanting the Dems to cut their signature bill. It would be the equivalent of the Dems going, you need to cut the military by 75%. It just isn't going to happen that way and that's why it is looked at the right not compromising.

    If the GOP really wants to get rid of Obamacare, they are going to have to wait till 2014 and focus on winning the senate and keeping the house. Anything less than that and the GOP is going to get blamed.

    If the GOP were willing to compromise, they would look outside of Obamacare and look for cuts on the Dems side of the house to attack. Attacking a primary bill the president and the Dems support isn't going to work.

    If the GOP lets Obamacare go, let's the Dems take FULL ownership of it without GOP support at all, They will probably win the senate, keep the house, and get the presidency in 2016.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    A plurality of small business owners favor a government shut down.

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