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CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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The issue is the incompetent in the WH and that is where the leadership is lacking. A good leader wouldn't have us in this position and that is why I voted for Romney. The only ones worried about a govt. shutdown are the people who buy the liberal rhetoric. There is enough money to prevent a shutdown but Obama wants the perception of pain. Please name for me one, just one prediction on the economy that Obama has made that has been accurate?

Nothing of what you are saying disproves what you quoted me on. Just be cause Dem Plan A sucks, does not mean GOP Plan A is automatically better. Nothing you say changes that Con.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

Nothing of what you are saying disproves what you quoted me on. Just be cause Dem Plan A sucks, does not mean GOP Plan A is automatically better. Nothing you say changes that Con.

Thus the problems with poor leadership, doesn't matter what plan A is for the Republicans, too many ignorant people still supporting the incompetent in the WH and the partisan thug in the Senate.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

Nothing of what you are saying disproves what you quoted me on. Just be cause Dem Plan A sucks, does not mean GOP Plan A is automatically better. Nothing you say changes that Con.

I don't think you understand the democratic process at all. The American people put the Republicans in charge of the House in 2010 and kept them in charge of the House in 2012. They were charged with doing exactly what they are doing and regardless of whether you like it or not the will of the people in the Districts those Congressional Representatives Represent is being fulfilled. No poll numbers regarding Congress is going to change that.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

Yep, people will still be trying to access the ACA website as 4-5 months is just about right for a govt. run program just to gain access to any information.

LOL, its possible. I hope the ACA is better than the VA, it takes them sometimes 7 to 10 years to rule on a claim.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

LOL, its possible. I hope the ACA is better than the VA, it takes them sometimes 7 to 10 years to rule on a claim.

We all better get used to the new transformed country that Obama envisioned and is trying to create. The new liberal motto will be "If you like the DMV and IRS you are going to love all the new agencies modeled after those two that we are creating to make things better for you"
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

We all better get used to the new transformed country that Obama envisioned and is trying to create. The new liberal motto will be "If you like the DMV and IRS you are going to love all the new agencies modeled after those two that we are creating to make things better for you"

the government is very inefficient. There is too much of the one size fits all thinking going on. then there are those government employees and organizations that think the people exist to take care of them than the other way around.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

I don't think you understand the democratic process at all. The American people put the Republicans in charge of the House in 2010 and kept them in charge of the House in 2012. They were charged with doing exactly what they are doing and regardless of whether you like it or not the will of the people in the Districts those Congressional Representatives Represent is being fulfilled. No poll numbers regarding Congress is going to change that.

And you simply don't understand that while those people put the Republicans in charge does not mean they approve lock in step with EVERYTHING they are doing. Hence why BOTH parties are taking a hit for this. While people may not like the ACA, they also don't approve of the Republicans method right now of shutting the government down to do it.
 
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And you simply don't understand that while those people put the Republicans in charge does not mean they approve lock in step with EVERYTHING they are doing. Hence why BOTH parties are taking a hit for this. While people may not like the ACA, they also don't approve of the Republicans method right now of shutting the government down to do it.

I know this is hard for you to believe but you really have no idea why Republicans were sent to D.C. after the 2012 election and you aren't in the mainstream but the reality is they are doing exactly what they were sent to do and it wasn't the Republicans that shutdown the govt. it was the Democrats. The fact that you buy the media and leftwing spin says a lot about you and that is the problem with far too many today. You get something in your head that you want to believe and no fact in the world is going to change your opinions. Try to focus, Republicans did not shutdown the govt, they submitted a CR to the Senate which the Senate rejected, that is what shut down the govt.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

Thus the problems with poor leadership, doesn't matter what plan A is for the Republicans, too many ignorant people still supporting the incompetent in the WH and the partisan thug in the Senate.

By poor leadership, I trust you are referring to John Boehner, who clearly makes Obama look like the best of Churchill and Lombardi rolled into one. I don't know about you, but I have never seen such a spineless buffoon as Boehner
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

By poor leadership, I trust you are referring to John Boehner, who clearly makes Obama look like the best of Churchill and Lombardi rolled into one. I don't know about you, but I have never seen such a spineless buffoon as Boehner

What a surprise, again someone who sees what they want to see. You don't get it either, the House is doing exactly what the people told them to do and even though you don't like it tough. I doubt seriously that the people of Westchester, Ohio, Boehner's home district gives a damn what you think of him as he will win re-election by big numbers. Same holds true with most Republicans. The ones that get in trouble are the ones that don't do what the people who employ them tell them to do.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

What a surprise, again someone who sees what they want to see. You don't get it either, the House is doing exactly what the people told them to do and even though you don't like it tough. I doubt seriously that the people of Westchester, Ohio, Boehner's home district gives a damn what you think of him as he will win re-election by big numbers. Same holds true with most Republicans. The ones that get in trouble are the ones that don't do what the people who employ them tell them to do.

..... Just as Obama won by big numbers from his constituency.

But, once again, Con leads from the heart, posting his hot rhetoric assuming he know the truth yet he can not support it. How is the house doing what people told them to do, given that forcing a government shutdown over ObamaCare was a loser by more than 2 to 1

Poll: Don't Tie Shutdown to Obamacare Funding - NationalJournal.com
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

What a surprise, again someone who sees what they want to see. You don't get it either, the House is doing exactly what the people told them to do and even though you don't like it tough.
Dems kept the Senate and the White house. The ACA was upheld by the Supreme Court. And if you want to dig deeper, the Dems received more votes during the House election than Repubs by 2 million votes. In what way is voting to interfere with the ACA the will of the people? Which people? Certainly not the majority of American citizens and is counterfactual to the law as declared by the Supreme Court. So which people Conservative?
 
We have run deficits for 63 of the last 73 years. You tell me. What is the norm? What good does paying down debt do for the US economy?
Yes, the norm is deficit spending. The American population is, as a whole, stupid for reelecting the politicians that do this.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

What a surprise, again someone who sees what they want to see. You don't get it either, the House is doing exactly what the people told them to do and even though you don't like it tough. I doubt seriously that the people of Westchester, Ohio, Boehner's home district gives a damn what you think of him as he will win re-election by big numbers. Same holds true with most Republicans. The ones that get in trouble are the ones that don't do what the people who employ them tell them to do.

They told them to put the American and world economy at risk?
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

..... Just as Obama won by big numbers from his constituency.

But, once again, Con leads from the heart, posting his hot rhetoric assuming he know the truth yet he can not support it. How is the house doing what people told them to do, given that forcing a government shutdown over ObamaCare was a loser by more than 2 to 1

Poll: Don't Tie Shutdown to Obamacare Funding - NationalJournal.com

If you want to believe that Congressional Poll numbers are relevant in Congressional races then nothing is going to change your mind, just like nothing is going to change your mind regarding the Govt. shutdown and who did it. No matter how many times you make your biased claims that doesn't make it true. It wasn't the House that shutdown the govt. it was the Senate and the last I checked the Senate is Democrat controlled.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

Dems kept the Senate and the White house. The ACA was upheld by the Supreme Court. And if you want to dig deeper, the Dems received more votes during the House election than Repubs by 2 million votes. In what way is voting to interfere with the ACA the will of the people? Which people? Certainly not the majority of American citizens and is counterfactual to the law as declared by the Supreme Court. So which people Conservative?

I know this is hard for you to understand but the Republican House is doing exactly what the people sent them to D.C. to do. You don't like it, tough. Love the liberal logic now that because the Democrats got more votes than the Repubiicans somehow that negates the will of the people who voted in those District election. Somehow in your world House elections don't matter now because the big liberal cities didn't carry those districts.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

That Obama is way better than Bush, what else?

Yep, the results sure show that, wonder exactly when it was that Bush had 16 million unemployed/discouraged workers, 6.4 trillion added to the debt and had any average result worse than Obama, GDP No, Unemployment No, Debt no. You are nothing more than a partisan hack who ignores data to buy the media spin.
 
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They told them to put the American and world economy at risk?

Obama and Democrats are putting our economy at risk but that doesn't matter. You see the 2011 debt ceiling supposedly addressed the debt and of course the 16.7 trillion dollar debt we have today vs. the 14.7 then really isn't an increase because Obama said raising the debt ceiling doesn't increase the debt. Yes, liberals love to pile on with their ignorance. There is more than enough money to prevent a credit default.
 
Your opinion noted just as your total ignorance of the facts. Trillion dollar deficits 2010-2011-2012 are Bush's fault too, right? I really suggest taking a leadership course because you have no idea what leadership is.

My new signature!
 
My new signature!

Love your part of the country. You also might want to ask your liberal friends that when the debt ceiling debate occurred in 2011 the debt was 14.7. Obama claimed that the raising of the debt ceiling would not cause more debt Today the debt is 16.7 trillion dollars. Guess that isn't an increase in the debt? Doesn't it raise the question to those who believe the rhetoric of this President as to why future obligations increased the spending from 2011 to 2013 and was approved by the President and the Congress?

http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...ling-not-linked-to-higher-debt-says-obama.htm
 
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Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

By poor leadership, I trust you are referring to John Boehner, who clearly makes Obama look like the best of Churchill and Lombardi rolled into one. I don't know about you, but I have never seen such a spineless buffoon as Boehner

Let's see, in 2011 we had a debt ceiling debate to increase the debt ceiling to 16.7 trillion dollars and "your" President said that raising the debt ceiling wouldn't increase the debt yet you question Boehner's leadership skills? Do you get all your information from the DNC, Jon Stewart, or how about off the bathroom walls?

Obama Claims Raising Debt Ceiling Doesn't Increase Debt
 
Love your part of the country. You also might want to ask your liberal friends that when the debt ceiling debate occurred in 2011 the debt was 14.7. Obama claimed that the raising of the debt ceiling would not cause more debt Today the debt is 16.7 trillion dollars. Guess that isn't an increase in the debt? Doesn't it raise the question to those who believe the rhetoric of this President as to why future obligations increased the spending from 2011 to 2013 and was approved by the President and the Congress?

Obama Claims Raising Debt Ceiling Doesn't Increase Debt

Obama says that carrying an umbrella won't make it rain. Then it rains. The first thing you would do is find someone carrying an umbrella, and then say HA! Obama's wrong.

Seriously, you should really take a step back and think about things for yourself. Any time you hear something flip the partisanship and ask yourself, do I feel differently about that now?

You're obviously a fair bit more intelligent than you come across. Don't let people who make millions of dollars at your expense do your thinking for you.
 
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I know this is hard for you to understand but the Republican House is doing exactly what the people sent them to D.C. to do. You don't like it, tough. Love the liberal logic now that because the Democrats got more votes than the Repubiicans somehow that negates the will of the people who voted in those District election. Somehow in your world House elections don't matter now because the big liberal cities didn't carry those districts.

The Republican House is Republican because of gerrymandering. It has nothing to do with the will of the people. 2012 was a +2pt year for Democrats in the house and yet Republicans held the house. This was the only 4th time in 100 years that had happened.

Because of the way the districts are drawn up, Democrats now need a +10pt year to have a 50/50 shot at taking back the house. To put that in perspective, the 1994 wave was a +7pt Republican victory.

In short, it is essentially impossible for the Democrats to control the house until 2022.
 
Obama says that carrying an umbrella won't make it rain. Then it rains. The first thing you would do is find someone carrying an umbrella, and then say HA! Obama's wrong.

Seriously, you should really take a step back and think about things for yourself. Any time you hear something flip the partisanship and ask yourself, do I feel differently about that now?

You're obviously a fair bit more intelligent than you come across. Don't let people who make millions of dollars at your expense do your thinking for you.

This President does nothing but talk which apparently is good enough for people like the Obamabot supporters. I understand leadership more than most here and those that do understand exactly where I am coming from. Obama controls what Harry Reid pushes in the Senate and the reality is that Obama has yet to submit a budget with any spending cuts nor proposed any policies that would put the 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work FULL time paying "their fair share" in FIT. Obama is not only carrying the umbrella but has also poked holes in it. Last debt ceiling debate was supposed to cut spending and here we are two years later with 2 more trillion in debt. That wasn't supposed to happen but somehow this time things are supposed to be different?
 
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