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    CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, actually I am bitter that there are this many people that ignorant. What govt. goodies? SS and Medicare are self funding, paid for by individuals, yes, even you. It isn't even close to a pension but more like a self contributory 401k. You have no concept of contributing your own money as demanded by the govt. and not expecting a return back. What did you contribute to your pension other than your time?

    I don't know whether to cry or laugh when I read your posts. this one is just completely ignorant
    So it's a 401k where the money disappears. Now I know why you always seem confused.

    I actually contributed a percentage of salary into my state pension when I worked for the University. In the private sector, when they stopped the pension they compensated by upping 401k contributions.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    So it's a 401k where the money disappears. Now I know why you always seem confused.

    I actually contributed a percentage of salary into my state pension when I worked for the University. In the private sector, when they stopped the pension they compensated by upping 401k contributions.
    So when you pass away where does your 401k go? 401k's are contributory,normally pensions are not. Light bulb going off yet?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It's an entitlement that suffers now because of the impending boomer retirements. We simply have too many people drawing money who never teally paid in their fair share. By 2030, the bulk of them will begin dying, and we'll have more workers per retiree again.
    Uh, yeah. The economy will collapse before your dreams of utopia become realized.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Uh, yeah. The economy will collapse before your dreams of utopia become realized.
    Actually it is their dreams of utopia that will collapse the economy with all that spending "in the name of compassion" without ever generating positive results only massive debt.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

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    Actually it is their dreams of utopia that will collapse the economy with all that spending "in the name of compassion" without ever generating positive results only massive debt.
    So what was compassionate conservatism all about?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So what was compassionate conservatism all about?
    Tough love forcing people to get a job maybe not THE job but a job, taking care of those truly in need by having neighbor help neighbor, not making that neighbor a govt. bureaucrat. Restoring the concept of personal responsibility, individual wealth creation, and a smaller limited central govt. returning to the foundation upon which our Founders created. I could go on but you really don't care nor would you understand it.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Social Security isn't like a 401k or a pension. Social Security is a pyramid scheme. The money you pay into is payed to subsidize the people who are on it now.

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    CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Social Security isn't like a 401k or a pension. Social Security is a pyramid scheme. The money you pay into is payed to subsidize the people who are on it now.
    Although please note...it's a pyramid scheme run by an immortal. Which works fine as long as the economy is growing...and the economy should be growing for 100 years if not forever.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Although please note...it's a pyramid scheme run by an immortal. Which works fine as long as the economy is growing...and the economy should be growing for 100 years if not forever.
    That was never the intent of SS, it was to go into a trust fund, grow at a reasonable rate and be there as a supplement to your retirement income. People were forced to contribute and when it was implemented life expectancy was 62 years so the intent was never to fully pay it out. It also was never intended to be on budget but Democrats in their desire to have more money to spend put it on Budget during LBJ's administration and that is where it has been since. It has been used for whatever the Congress and President wants and to show what liberals want to call a surplus but now is in dire straits. The obligations are coming due and not one liberal here seems to be smart enough to understand that we don't have the money to pay for those obligations so we either borrow it or print it neither of which creates desirable results.

    Forcing people to contribute is quite different than a 401K, a pension, or life insurance which is why when asked the question as to where my wife's money should have gone I get total silence or typical liberal bs.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Tough love forcing people to get a job maybe not THE job but a job, taking care of those truly in need by having neighbor help neighbor, not making that neighbor a govt. bureaucrat. Restoring the concept of personal responsibility, individual wealth creation, and a smaller limited central govt. returning to the foundation upon which our Founders created. I could go on but you really don't care nor would you understand it.
    wel I understand you have memorized a bunch of simplistic catch phrases.

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