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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, that's a real possibility.

    When that time comes perhaps we will learn to help each other once again. Or there could be rioting in the streets and lengthy periods of general looting and mayhem. Choose your neighborhood well. )
    I'd like to know why we waste $150 B on dept of agriculture subsidizing food that makes everyone fat and unhealthy. That, IMO, is the root of our problem.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'd like to know why we waste $150 B on dept of agriculture subsidizing food that makes everyone fat and unhealthy. That, IMO, is the root of our problem.
    Fat and unhealthy is an individuals problem, or it was until Obamacare arrived.. Subsidizing millionaires is the nations problem. Any idea how Springsteen or Turner voted?

    Springsteen, Bon Jovi and Ted Turner get over $30bn in tax subsidies EVERY YEAR | Mail Online

    http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/...6-91c970fbee1f

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It was the first chink in Gingrich's armor. By 98, he was out as speaker.
    Who cares what happened to Gingrich? (Certainly not me, or any libertarian on this forum).

    The question was: Are Republicans going to suffer politically, as a result of their refusal to surrender in 2013, with the government shutdown as a consequence?

    "If history is any guide" - not really.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Fat and unhealthy is an individuals problem, or it was until Obamacare arrived.. Subsidizing millionaires is the nations problem. Any idea how Springsteen or Turner voted?

    Springsteen, Bon Jovi and Ted Turner get over $30bn in tax subsidies EVERY YEAR | Mail Online

    http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/...6-91c970fbee1f
    Ah, welfare for the rich. There's a lot of that going around.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Who cares what happened to Gingrich? (Certainly not me, or any libertarian on this forum).

    The question was: Are Republicans going to suffer politically, as a result of their refusal to surrender in 2013, with the government shutdown as a consequence?

    "If history is any guide" - not really.
    My guess is the shutdown will not matter to anyone in 2014. However, if we default, that will open up a whole new can of worms and whoever gets the blame for that will suffer consequences.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'd like to know why we waste $150 B on dept of agriculture subsidizing food that makes everyone fat and unhealthy. That, IMO, is the root of our problem.
    You don't seem to understand the difference between your income taxes and their use vs. SS and Medicare taxes and their use. You are contributing your money into a SS account, if you pass away before getting that money where should it go?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't seem to understand the difference between your income taxes and their use vs. SS and Medicare taxes and their use. You are contributing your money into a SS account, if you pass away before getting that money where should it go?
    To those who don't pass away. Duh. That's how it works. It's like the lottery. For some, like you, it's a jackpot. You'll probably receive back multiple times more than you paid in. For others...those who lost, it was a complete waste of money. If anything SS will be harmed because there will be too few losers: too many people are living too long, not the other way around.

    Why are you whining about something that just is?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    To those who don't pass away. Duh. That's how it works. It's like the lottery. For some, like you, it's a jackpot. You'll probably receive back multiple times more than you paid in. For others...those who lost, it was a complete waste of money. If anything SS will be harmed because there will be too few losers: too many people are living too long, not the other way around.

    Why are you whining about something that just is?
    No, it is about answering the damn question, It is your money, you do understand the concept right? Where should your SS money go if you aren't able to collect on all that you contributed plus a return on that so called investment? I know why you won't answer the question because you simply cannot admit you are wrong on any issue.

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    CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, it is about answering the damn question, It is your money, you do understand the concept right? Where should your SS money go if you aren't able to collect on all that you contributed plus a return on that so called investment? I know why you won't answer the question because you simply cannot admit you are wrong on any issue.
    You're really bitter that you can't get more of the government goodies, aren't you?

    The system is set up actuarially like a pension. You die a year into getting pension benefits...too bad. You live til your 110, you hit the jackpot.
    A Pension does the same thing, just run by a private firm. I guess this is all new infotmation for you....sorry if you're shocked or anything.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    You're really bitter that you can't get more of the government goodies, aren't you?

    The system is set up actuarially like a pension. You die a year into getting pension benefits...too bad. You live til your 110, you hit the jackpot.
    A Pension does the same thing, just run by a private firm. I guess this is all new infotmation for you....sorry if you're shocked or anything.
    No, actually I am bitter that there are this many people that ignorant. What govt. goodies? SS and Medicare are self funding, paid for by individuals, yes, even you. It isn't even close to a pension but more like a self contributory 401k. You have no concept of contributing your own money as demanded by the govt. and not expecting a return back. What did you contribute to your pension other than your time?

    I don't know whether to cry or laugh when I read your posts. this one is just completely ignorant

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