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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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    I'm posting reality, not theory...
    reality is an exception in left wing economic theory



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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    We were discussing consuming outside ones productive capacity. You just made a rookie mistake by arguing in favor of autarkic policy, without even realizing it!

    Ummm. Better luck next time?
    No, we were posting, or at least I was, on a national level not an individual one. Individual behavior is much more related to one's ability to produce and/or consume...
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    I've been dabbing all day. And you want to make winey excuses.

    There is nothing you will provide that has not already been posted here at least a dozen times. Do yourself a favor, and review those threads.
    Not just any "winey" excuse but a very fabulous malbec from Argentina that is tantalizing my palate at the moment thank you very much.

    Something for you to think about.....



    Since President Obama came into office, the debt limit has been raised seven times.

    With those increases, Congress has added $43,000 in debt for every American household in just the last four years.

    And now the debt limit deadline is once again upon us. Treasury is out of tricks to keep paying the bills on October 17.

    Ask yourself what happened the last time Congress raised the debt ceiling? Did they accomplish any meaningful spending cuts before increasing the debt limit? Let me help you with that one.....the answer is Hell no!


    Are you aware that Congress and the President when they last suspended the debt ceiling from February 4, 2013, through May 18, 2013, adding $300 billion to the national debt in less than four months? Their only request was that the Senate produce a budget for the first time in four years, which it did. But No savings were accomplished because the f'ing budget was full of more spending!

    For the love of Pete this is unacceptable!

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No, we were posting, or at least I was, on a national level not an individual one. Individual behavior is much more related to one's ability to produce and/or consume...
    Macroeconomics requires a valid microeconomic foundation. Your posts are based on a frivolous understanding of economics in general, which can be identified by your lacking (and i am being kind) understanding microeconomics.

    As already stated, without theory one cannot begin to understand economic result.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    I've been dabbing all day. And you want to make winey excuses.

    There is nothing you will provide that has not already been posted here at least a dozen times. Do yourself a favor, and review those threads.
    Do they give a prize here for condescension?
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Not just any "winey" excuse but a very fabulous malbec from Argentina that is tantalizing my palate at the moment thank you very much.

    Something for you to think about.....



    Since President Obama came into office, the debt limit has been raised seven times.

    With those increases, Congress has added $43,000 in debt for every American household in just the last four years.

    And now the debt limit deadline is once again upon us. Treasury is out of tricks to keep paying the bills on October 17.

    Ask yourself what happened the last time Congress raised the debt ceiling? Did they accomplish any meaningful spending cuts before increasing the debt limit? Let me help you with that one.....the answer is Hell no!


    Are you aware that Congress and the President when they last suspended the debt ceiling from February 4, 2013, through May 18, 2013, adding $300 billion to the national debt in less than four months? Their only request was that the Senate produce a budget for the first time in four years, which it did. But No savings were accomplished because the f'ing budget was full of more spending!

    For the love of Pete this is unacceptable!
    And Pelosi said they just can't cut any further! : I may have forgotten, but what have they cut so far?

    Good evening, Vesper.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Macroeconomics requires a valid microeconomic foundation. Your posts are based on a frivolous understanding of economics in general, which can be identified by your lacking (and i am being kind) understanding microeconomics.

    As already stated, without theory one cannot begin to understand economic result.
    There is a huge difference between the two schools. I appreciate the civil discussion tonight, but alas, it's bedtime. Theory is adequate for the classroom, but it is not reality as I have found out while living it...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Not just any "winey" excuse but a very fabulous malbec from Argentina that is tantalizing my palate at the moment thank you very much.
    Nice!

    Something for you to think about.....
    I've been on somewhat of a wine kick as of late. French wine is roughly half the cost in the EU than in the U.S..



    Since President Obama came into office, the debt limit has been raised seven times.

    With those increases, Congress has added $43,000 in debt for every American household in just the last four years.

    And now the debt limit deadline is once again upon us. Treasury is out of tricks to keep paying the bills on October 17.

    Ask yourself what happened the last time Congress raised the debt ceiling? Did they accomplish any meaningful spending cuts before increasing the debt limit? Let me help you with that one.....the answer is Hell no!


    Are you aware that Congress and the President when they last suspended the debt ceiling from February 4, 2013, through May 18, 2013, adding $300 billion to the national debt in less than four months? Their only request was that the Senate produce a budget for the first time in four years, which it did. But No savings were accomplished because the f'ing budget was full of more spending!

    For the love of Pete this is unacceptable!
    At this juncture, government spending (however undesirable) is not the gravest of concerns. Unemployment is still above 7% and asset prices continue to show weakness with respects to fundamental valuation. In a normal growth environment, you would expect the Dow Jones Industrial average to be roughly 20,000 (every 100 basis points under 4% should add another 1000). Historically low interest rates cannot keep new home sales off of levels not seen since the early 1980's when interest rates were at record highs and the population was roughly 80% of what it is now.

    We will eventually have to deal with spending. Now is not the time.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    reality is an exception in left wing economic theory
    As stated for the 3rd time, without economic theory, you will be unable to understand economic result. Economics is based on theory; the strongest of which can be supported via the empirical process.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    As stated for the 3rd time, without economic theory, you will be unable to understand economic result. Economics is based on theory; the strongest of which can be supported via the empirical process.
    I live economics successfully. That's called putting the theory to practice.



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