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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It shows that his current recession is deeper, by several orders of magnitude, than anything Reagan faced.
    No doubt that is what you think, where does leadership play into problem solving and solutions? You fail to recognize the failure of leadership under Obama compared to the incredible leadership under Reagan. I know this is hard for you to understand but by any economic measurement the 81-82 recession hurt the American people more than this one in terms of larger numbers. You obviously weren't old enough to understand that, I was. Reagan did not demonize the opposition, he worked with the opposition but more importantly he worked and talked to the American people. He was a big cheerleader and in doing that restored confidence and the American work ethic by letting people know that individual wealth creation isn't bad. This is not a zero sum economy meaning that when someone wins someone else doesn't have to lose. That isn't they it works. A growing pie helps all people unlike what Obama seems to promote.

    Leaders are responsible for the hand they are dealt not continuing to blame someone else for poor performance. Obama is incompetent, lacks leadership skills, and acts like a street thug. Pay attention to results not rhetoric.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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    So exactly what does that tell you. Debt to GDP then vs. now? You love percentages, that should make you think a little
    It tells me GWB ran up the credit card...typical of a Frat Boy.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No doubt that is what you think, where does leadership play into problem solving and solutions? You fail to recognize the failure of leadership under Obama compared to the incredible leadership under Reagan. I know this is hard for you to understand but by any economic measurement the 81-82 recession hurt the American people more than this one in terms of larger numbers. You obviously weren't old enough to understand that, I was. Reagan did not demonize the opposition, he worked with the opposition but more importantly he worked and talked to the American people. He was a big cheerleader and in doing that restored confidence and the American work ethic by letting people know that individual wealth creation isn't bad. This is not a zero sum economy meaning that when someone wins someone else doesn't have to lose. That isn't they it works. A growing pie helps all people unlike what Obama seems to promote.

    Leaders are responsible for the hand they are dealt not continuing to blame someone else for poor performance. Obama is incompetent, lacks leadership skills, and acts like a street thug. Pay attention to results not rhetoric.
    Start talking about the failed leadership of GWB, and you might be onto something.

    And, the current Congress--especially the House as led by Boehner, but the Filibustering Republicans in Senate are part of it too--is the obstruction.

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    CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I know this is hard for you to understand but by any economic measurement the 81-82 recession hurt the American people more than this one in terms of larger numbers. You obviously weren't old enough to understand that, I was.
    Hahahaha! That's hilarious.

    I think when he says 'American People' he means ' some guy I knew'. That's the only way this sentence makes sense.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It tells me GWB ran up the credit card...typical of a Frat Boy.
    Right, last time I checked the United States Credit Card was issued by the U.S. Congress. Take a civics course. How many times do I have to prove you wrong before you grow a pair and admit you are wrong?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Hahahaha! That's hilarious.

    I think when he says 'American People' he means ' some guy I knew'. That's the only way this sentence makes sense.
    As were being conceived, your parents were paying their mortgage and living expenses with a 20+ misery index. Like most liberals you don't care nor do you have a clue. Record low interest rates, low inflation made this past recession at least manageable for most Americans.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Start talking about the failed leadership of GWB, and you might be onto something.

    And, the current Congress--especially the House as led by Boehner, but the Filibustering Republicans in Senate are part of it too--is the obstruction.
    Of course it is always the Republican's fault. It was the Republicans Fault even when they didn't control Congress from 2007-2008 and it was GW Bush's fault and Republicans when Obama and the Democrats controlled the WH and Congress from 2009-2011. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, last time I checked the United States Credit Card was issued by the U.S. Congress. Take a civics course. How many times do I have to prove you wrong before you grow a pair and admit you are wrong?
    GWB and his GOP congree started two unfunded wars and expanded the prescription drug plan while cutting taxes. How many times do I have to tell you where the damned $16 Trillion came from?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Well, that's at least true. GDP in 1988 was about 7 Trillion; today it's maybe 15.
    If you would stop posting for a while and actually do some research you are going to find that I don't post inaccurate numbers and even give the link to those numbers.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Don't you mean $10 trillion? Bush didn't propose an $800 billion stimulus, nor did he increase spending to 25% of GDP.

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