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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Oh, well in that case, be sure to keep your thoughts to yourself.


    Well, since you're asking, I think my claims are more relevant, credible and well thought out than yours, actually.
    I am not surprised because I have the same feelings about my claims vs. yours. Too bad we really cannot compare resumes to see which of us is more credible.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am not surprised because I have the same feelings about my claims vs. yours. Too bad we really cannot compare resumes to see which of us is more credible.
    Yeah, what a pity. lol

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I told you a long time ago that Reagan nearly tripled the debt; Bush Jr almost doubled it and Obama only raised it a mere 45%.

    It's conservatives who like to borrow and spend.
    Interesting anytime a liberal brings up such charts, they either fail to realize how it misleads, or their intent is to mislead.

    I wonder what calamity's intent is...

    If we take Bush's 2 terms that concluded with an 86% increase, and annualize it, it is 8.07% annually. Obomba's annualized is 2 years is 20.42%

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The reason Republicans would more be blamed is more people watch pro-Democrat networks. It is the Democrats in the US Senate, not Republicans, threatening to shut down government unless they get everything they want in the budget. The budget ceiling is the law. Democrats in the Senate declare they will destroy the economy unless Republicans go along with breaking that law.
    I know it's amazing...

    The Chicago Tribune has and have headlines that read "Democrats In Senate Reject House Republican Proposal for Government Funding" yet the ****ING PROGRESSIVE MORONS continue to blame non-progressives........

    It's literally ****ing amazing how stupid these ****ing people actually are...

    These people don't pay attention even to their own mouthpieces .....

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Interesting anytime a liberal brings up such charts, they either fail to realize how it misleads, or their intent is to mislead.

    I wonder what calamity's intent is...

    If we take Bush's 2 terms that concluded with an 86% increase, and annualize it, it is 8.07% annually. Obomba's annualized is 9.73%.
    I love particularly how liberals love to use percentage change ignoring the base that percentage is based upon. No question about it, it is an attempt to mislead or else is just shows plain ignorance. Only a liberal could say that 4.9 trillion added over 8 years is worse than 6.4 trillion added in 5. Doesn't seem to matter that the 4.9 trillion isn't going to go up but the 6.4 trillion is and debt service is paid on actual debt not percentage change.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I love particularly how liberals love to use percentage change ignoring the base that percentage is based upon. No question about it, it is an attempt to mislead or else is just shows plain ignorance. Only a liberal could say that 4.9 trillion added over 8 years is worse than 6.4 trillion added in 5. Doesn't seem to matter that the 4.9 trillion isn't going to go up but the 6.4 trillion is and debt service is paid on actual debt not percentage change.
    Yes, but it is also fiscal year to fiscal year that is to be considered. 10/1 to 9/30. Bush's terms included the time from 10/1/2002 to 9/30/2009 for budgets he signed into law. Everyone needs to remember the budget ending 9/20/02 was signed into law by Clinton. The chart showing it for Obama is from 10/1/09 to 1/31/12. Two years and 4 months. Now i did calculate Obama's wrong, as a strait 2 years, but it isn't 5 either. Annualizing that 45% over 2-1/3 years is 17.26%. Not the 20.42% I previously said.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I love particularly how liberals love to use percentage change ignoring the base that percentage is based upon. No question about it, it is an attempt to mislead or else is just shows plain ignorance. Only a liberal could say that 4.9 trillion added over 8 years is worse than 6.4 trillion added in 5. Doesn't seem to matter that the 4.9 trillion isn't going to go up but the 6.4 trillion is and debt service is paid on actual debt not percentage change.
    They will lie deliberately, and mislead, to support their ideology and party.

    Some say this is a lack of morals but I say they have no pride in themselves either. It goes beyond mere stupidity, which can of course be forgiven.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I love particularly how .....
    Ooops.

    You snagged my earlier quote before I corrected it. I originally used 4 years, till I remembered how late fiscal budgets start, then also noticed the chart specified Jan '12. I also had a quick edit for 3 years in there.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They will lie deliberately, and mislead, to support their ideology and party.

    Some say this is a lack of morals but I say they have no pride in themselves either. It goes beyond mere stupidity, which can of course be forgiven.
    Chronic liars have no pride. I wonder if they even understand the concept.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yes, but it is also fiscal year to fiscal year that is to be considered. 10/1 to 9/30. Bush's terms included the time from 10/1/2002 to 9/30/2009 for budgets he signed into law. Everyone needs to remember the budget ending 9/20/02 was signed into law by Clinton. The chart showing it for Obama is from 10/1/09 to 1/31/12. Two years and 4 months. Now i did calculate Obama's wrong, as a strait 2 years, but it isn't 5 either. Annualizing that 45% over 2-1/3 years is 17.26%. Not the 20.42% I previously said.
    I remember right after 9/11 the claim was that "we would never forget" but obviously many have. According to the GAO, 9/11 cost the treasury over a trillion dollars which is part of that Bush debt. Just information, still part of the Bush legacy. Interesting how that debt is included in the 4.9 trillion dollars but for some reason that debt is higher than the 6.4 trillion Obama has added in 5 years.

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