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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What the hell are you talking about, that is indeed a chart? Liberals want to blame Bush for the 750000 to 800k jobs lost but not the 4 million jobs lost during much of 2010. Liberals always want to ignore Obama's long term unemployed and discouraged workers so please don't be an Obamabot and accept the failures of Obama.
    Chart it out. Watch it drop. You hide behind static numbers and refuse to acknowledge trends. Which is why you fail in epic proportions. Want static numbers? Under whose administration were more jobs created? Bush or Obama?



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    I understand completely your problem you have no idea what debunking means. Neither you or any other liberal has provided data that refutes the official govt. data from bls.gov, bea.gov, and the U.S. Treasury. Not once has any liberal responded to the Obama projections and programs that have not yielded the results promised. Not one liberal blames Obama for the 6.4 trillion dollar debt he has generated and continue to blame Bush for the Obama inherited deficit of over a trillion dollars when taking office refusing to accept the fact that Bush CR's didn't create that debt and the Bush budget was never approved or signed by Congress until the Democrats and Obama did it in March 2009.

    I have been served nothing but bull**** from Obamabots who are incapable of actually debating the issues. You are rapidly becoming one.
    And here come more ignorance. Whose budget was the 2009 budget? Bush's or Obama's? Also, I'll now ask you to point out what policies drove that deficit spending you will not give me an answer. We've done this dance before. You've done this dance with others before. You always lose while declaring victory.

    Facts ellude you simply because you refuse to acknowledge fact. Instead you opt for the "if I post last I win" tactic.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    No there have been over a thousand bad actions by Republicans over the last 5 years it about time Dems stud up to the Tea Party terrorist.
    Hyperbole like this does not help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    poweRob;1062372118]Chart it out. Watch it drop. You hide behind static numbers and refuse to acknowledge trends. Which is why you fail in epic proportions. Want static numbers? Under whose administration were more jobs created? Bush or Obama?
    Under Bush but then again you would have to go to BLS to get the answer. Bush had a net job creation of 6 million, Obama has a net job creation of 2 million although we are down two million from when the recession began. Get some help reading this CHART

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNS12000000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
    Labor force status: Employed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Years: 1980 to 2013

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec

    2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
    2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
    2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
    2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
    2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
    2006 143150 143457 143741 143761 144089 144353 144202 144625 144815 145314 145534 145970
    2007 146028 146057 146320 145586 145903 146063 145905 145682 146244 145946 146595 146273
    2008 146378 146156 146086 146132 145908 145737 145532 145203 145076 144802 144100 143369
    2009 142153 141644 140721 140652 140250 140005 139898 139481 138810 138421 138665 138025
    2010 138439 138624 138767 139296 139255 139148 139167 139405 139388 139097 139046 139295
    2011 139253 139471 139643 139606 139681 139405 139509 139870 140164 140314 140771 140896
    2012 141608 142019 142020 141934 142302 142448 142250 142164 142974 143328 143277 143305
    2013 143322 143492 143286 143579 143898 144058 144285 144170
    Bush took office with 137.7 million working Americans and when he left there were 142.2 or a net gain of 4.5 million jobs which was four million higher when the recession began. Obama has had a net gain of 2 million jobs but is down two million from when the recession began. Not much to show for all that debt, is it?


    And here come more ignorance. Whose budget was the 2009 budget? Bush's or Obama's?
    Bush submitted the budget as required, it was never passed by the Democrat controlled Senate, the budget was signed and approved by the Democrat controlled Senate and Obama in March 2009 so it was the Obama budget due to his signature on it.

    Facts ellude you simply because you refuse to acknowledge fact.
    I have seen only statements from you, no facts. Since you don't know what a chart is maybe you don't know what a fact is either.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    The GOP is using something unrelated to Obamacare, the funding of the government, to push the issue. That was a mistake.
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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That was a great link! I especially liked the one where Obama was toasting the Queen. Did you see it?
    What a dodge. Which is understandable. FDR scorched the repubs in just a minute and a half in a way that is still precient of the GOP today.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Under Bush but then again you would have to go to BLS to get the answer. Bush had a net job creation of 6 million, Obama has a net job creation of 2 million although we are down two million from when the recession began. Get some help reading this CHART



    Bush took office with 137.7 million working Americans and when he left there were 142.2 or a net gain of 4.5 million jobs which was four million higher when the recession began. Obama has had a net gain of 2 million jobs but is down two million from when the recession began. Not much to show for all that debt, is it?




    Bush submitted the budget as required, it was never passed by the Democrat controlled Senate, the budget was signed and approved by the Democrat controlled Senate and Obama in March 2009 so it was the Obama budget due to his signature on it.



    I have seen only statements from you, no facts. Since you don't know what a chart is maybe you don't know what a fact is either.

    BLS... The numbers you tout put to graph. BLS numbers.

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    This is what makes you lose your poop.

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    This is how you turn around another republican recession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    BLS... The numbers you tout put to graph. BLS numbers.

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    This is what makes you lose your poop.

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    This is how you turn around another republican recession.
    Really? do you really believe there were only 110 million working Americans in a country of 310 million Americans and a labor force of 155 million? You have no idea what chart you posted or what information is in that chart.

    Let me help you, we have a labor force of 155 million and if the working numbers were 110 million that would mean 45 million unemployed. What would that unemployment rate be? See where you made your mistake yet? Think for a change, you are smarter than this.

    Oh, by the way, get someone to help you read your chart because even your chart shows more working Americans under Bush and more job creation

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Really? do you really believe there were only 110 million working Americans in a country of 310 million Americans and a labor force of 155 million? You have no idea what chart you posted or what information is in that chart.

    Let me help you, we have a labor force of 155 million and if the working numbers were 110 million that would mean 45 million unemployed. What would that unemployment rate be? See where you made your mistake yet? Think for a change, you are smarter than this.
    See the source of the charts? BLS. Brings to question... Who are you to tell anyone that they need help reading?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    See the source of the charts? BLS. Brings to question... Who are you to tell anyone that they need help reading?
    Because there are various sections of BLS. learn the sections and where to get the information on employment. I posted the chart showing employment, your makes no sense and you know it. Not sure what the 110 million represents but could easily find out. You ought to try it. Think about it, labor force of 155 million and 110 working Americans?

    By the way, my chart has the chart name on it, you ought to try doing the same thing

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because there are various sections of BLS. learn the sections and where to get the information on employment. I posted the chart showing employment, your makes no sense and you know it. Not sure what the 110 million represents but could easily find out. You ought to try it. Think about it, labor force of 155 million and 110 working Americans?

    By the way, my chart has the chart name on it, you ought to try doing the same thing
    For pete's sake. What unemployment stat do you want to go by? Pick ONE. U3, U6? pick one. I'll go do your homework for you AGAIN and show everyone AGAIN how wrong you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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