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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The reason Republicans would more be blamed is more people watch pro-Democrat networks.
    That's not what I hear from people trumping Fox. And objectively, it's statistically about the same when you compare Republican leaning to Democrat leaning total viewership. But it is funny to watch people like you switch your arguments whenever you feel like it. Makes me question how much you actually believe of what you say.

    It is the Democrats in the US Senate, not Republicans, threatening to shut down government unless they get everything they want in the budget. The budget ceiling is the law. Democrats in the Senate declare they will destroy the economy unless Republicans go along with breaking that law.
    Huh? We can turn the logic argument and do this:

    It is the Republicans in the US House, not Democrats, threatening to shut down government unless they get everything they want in the budget.
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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, I am sorry, the Republicans retained control of the House in 2012, what election were you watching?
    That's what I said.

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    gerrymandered districts sooooo badly that you lost the popular vote in the house and still held a solid majority
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative
    Please tell me what it is about Obama that creates this kind of loyalty because it certainly isn't his economic results or leadership qualities. What is wrong with people like you who have to destroy anyone that disagrees with you. Results matter which you don't seem to understand. Gerrymandering the districts? Apparently Democrats never do that nor do they shut out Republicans in any negotiations like the behind closed door sessions for Obamacare. Do you people ever accept responsibility for anything including election losses?
    Blah blah blah cut and paste redundant nonsense that you always post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    That's what I said.





    Blah blah blah cut and paste redundant nonsense that you always post.
    Yes, redundant and yet I never get an answer. This really is a sickness on your part as you have to accept responsibility for failure. Didn't they teach you responsibility in the military?

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, redundant and yet I never get an answer. This really is a sickness on your part as you have to accept responsibility for failure. Didn't they teach you responsibility in the military?
    Dude, you've been answered a zillion times and you have a knack for ignoring them when you aren't insulting them because they debunked you so hard. You're B.S. up above it rhetorical garbage. Pretending to be a victim who never gets an answer to that rhetorical crap is lulz to the max.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have no problem with that if you can show me where in the ACA were the exemptions described and explained? Seems those exemptions were created AFTER the law so apparently exemptions are negotiable but apparently only for Obama supporters and backers.
    Republicans bitched and bitched and bitched about Obamacare so Obama delayed some of the ACA. That was you conservatives getting your victory. Now that you guys got your way with getting segments delayed... now this is the implementation of the law you guys are attempting to shoot holes into.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Dude, you've been answered a zillion times and you have a knack for ignoring them when you aren't insulting them because they debunked you so hard. You're B.S. up above it rhetorical garbage. Pretending to be a victim who never gets an answer to that rhetorical crap is lulz to the max.
    More rhetoric, I am here right now, debunk it. Give me the Obama economic results that prove he has done a job that warrants your support. Want to start with unemployment, debunk this chart from BLS?

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNS13000000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Unemployment Level
    Labor force status: Unemployed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Years: 2000 to 2010
    Unemployed
    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2000 5708 5858 5733 5481 5758 5651 5747 5853 5625 5534 5639 5634
    2001 6023 6089 6141 6271 6226 6484 6583 7042 7142 7694 8003 8258
    2002 8182 8215 8304 8599 8399 8393 8390 8304 8251 8307 8520 8640
    2003 8520 8618 8588 8842 8957 9266 9011 8896 8921 8732 8576 8317
    2004 8370 8167 8491 8170 8212 8286 8136 7990 7927 8061 7932 7934
    2005 7784 7980 7737 7672 7651 7524 7406 7345 7553 7453 7566 7279
    2006 7059 7185 7075 7122 6977 6998 7154 7097 6853 6728 6883 6784
    2007 7085 6898 6725 6845 6765 6966 7113 7096 7200 7273 7284 7696
    2008 7678 7491 7816 7631 8395 8578 8950 9450 9501 10083 10544 11299
    2009 12049 12860 13389 13796 14505 14727 14646 14861 15012 15421 15227 15124
    2010 14953 15039 15128 15221 14876 14517 14609 14735 14574 14636 15104 14393
    2011 13919 13751 13628 13792 13892 14024 13908 13920 13897 13759 13323 13097
    2012 12748 12806 12686 12518 12695 12701 12745 12483 12082 12248 12042 12206
    2013 12332 12032 11742 11659 11760 11777 11514 11316

    Discouraged workers
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318
    2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096 945
    2012 1059 1006 865 968 830 821 852 844 802 813 979 1068
    2013 804 885 803 835 780 1027 988 816

    Unemployed + Discouraged
    2008 8145 7887 8217 8043 8795 8998 9411 9831 9968 10567 11152 11941
    2009 12783 13591 14074 14536 15297 15520 15442 15619 15718 16229 16088 16053
    2010 16018 16243 16122 16418 15959 15724 15794 15845 15783 15855 16386 15711
    2011 14912 14771 14549 14781 14714 15006 15027 14897 14934 14726 14419 14042
    2012 13807 13812 13551 13486 13525 13522 13597 13327 12884 13061 13021 13274
    2013 13136 12917 12545 12577 12540 12804 12502 12132 0 0 0 0

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Republicans bitched and bitched and bitched about Obamacare so Obama delayed some of the ACA. That was you conservatives getting your victory. Now that you guys got your way with getting segments delayed... now this is the implementation of the law you guys are attempting to shoot holes into.
    He delayed what he wanted to delay but without negotiation with the People's House. You just don't get it, do you and liberal have the gall to talk about crony capitalism? Guess some people are just destined to be used their entire lives.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    More rhetoric, I am here right now, debunk it. Give me the Obama economic results that prove he has done a job that warrants your support. Want to start with unemployment, debunk this chart from BLS?
    1) this is not a chart. This is you not knowing how to use the internet and expecting everyone else to do the legwork for you

    2) You've done this a zillion times on this very specific topic that you are derailing this thread with and this is where you always get destroyed, then ignore the facts brought back after lots and lots of work by someone else showing you, point blank, how you are wrong. Then you turn to ad homs.

    You've been served so many times that that is exactly why I put you on ignore. It's a nonstop rerun. Anyone gotta link to the one of many many times this has happened? I've no time for this crap AGAIN.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    1) this is not a chart. This is you not knowing how to use the internet and expecting everyone else to do the legwork for you

    2) You've done this a zillion times on this very specific topic that you are derailing this thread with and this is where you always get destroyed, then ignore the facts brought back after lots and lots of work by someone else showing you, point blank, how you are wrong. Then you turn to ad homs.

    You've been served so many times that that is exactly why I put you on ignore. It's a nonstop rerun. Anyone gotta link to the one of many many times this has happened? I've no time for this crap AGAIN.
    What the hell are you talking about, that is indeed a chart? Liberals want to blame Bush for the 750000 to 800k jobs lost but not the 4 million jobs lost during much of 2010. Liberals always want to ignore Obama's long term unemployed and discouraged workers so please don't be an Obamabot and accept the failures of Obama.

    I understand completely your problem you have no idea what debunking means. Neither you or any other liberal has provided data that refutes the official govt. data from bls.gov, bea.gov, and the U.S. Treasury. Not once has any liberal responded to the Obama projections and programs that have not yielded the results promised. Not one liberal blames Obama for the 6.4 trillion dollar debt he has generated and continue to blame Bush for the Obama inherited deficit of over a trillion dollars when taking office refusing to accept the fact that Bush CR's didn't create that debt and the Bush budget was never approved or signed by Congress until the Democrats and Obama did it in March 2009.

    I have been served nothing but bull**** from Obamabots who are incapable of actually debating the issues. You are rapidly becoming one.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you are saying that one bad action, justifies another....That is childish thinking.
    No there have been over a thousand bad actions by Republicans over the last 5 years it about time Dems stud up to the Tea Party terrorist.

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