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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, yep, disagree with you so call me a teabagger or a terrorist because I elected my Representative to do what they are doing. Not sure where you live or how old you are but a good civics class might help you. Seems that what is good for liberals is good for the country when the country disagrees liberals go crazy and blame the tea party.
    Who you elected is Irrelevant. That minorities' tactics ARE the issue here.
    And you did NOT Back your claim of what is going on and who is responsible.
    Your last was Indeed Empty GARBAGE/Conspiratorial innuendo and you have FAILED to put any meat on the bone.
    My post to j-mac remains Untouched by any coherent or honest reply.

    The HACKERY on the top half of the board is disgraceful, and you are one of the main knee-jerk purveyors that make logical discussion impossible.
    I'm personally sick of not being able to dunk a basketball because of racism.
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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Who you elected is Irrelevant. That minorities' tactics ARE the issue here.
    And you did NOT Back your claim of what is going on and who is responsible.
    Your last was Indeed Empty GARBAGE/Conspiratorial innuendo and you have FAILED to put any meat on the bone.
    My post to j-mac remains Untouched by any coherent or honest reply.

    The HACKERY on the top half of the board is disgraceful, and you are one of the main knee-jerk purveyors that make logical discussion impossible.
    Minority? Do you understand how our govt. works? Do you understand how many districts there are in this nation and the govt. our Founders created?

    I Have told you who is responsible, "your" President for not negotiating with the People's House, "your" President for not offering the same exemptions to the American people as he offered to his campaign contributors.

    The total ignorance on the part of far too many Obamabots is staggering.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Did the law that was passed site the exemptions that Obama has given to contributors and other supporters? Why is it that Obama can negotiate for exemptions with campaign contributors and other supporters but not with the members of "the People's House?"
    I don't approve of Obama's conduct with regards to exemptions. I'm not a partisan and don't try and justify the misdeeds of one party by blaming the other. I don't consider the democrats blameless in the matter, just that the tea party fanatics have truly crossed the line this time.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Minority? Do you understand how our govt. works? Do you understand how many districts there are in this nation and the govt. our Founders created?
    I Have told you who is responsible, "your" President for not negotiating with the People's House, "your" President for not offering the same exemptions to the American people as he offered to his campaign contributors.


    The total ignorance on the part of far too many Obamabots is staggering.
    Unlike you, I am not a Bot-anything.
    The Govt shut down because a wacked-faction of Congress, which Boehner accommodates but doesn't even agree with, has made it so.
    The OTHER "peoples" body, the Senate Disagrees.
    (as does the RE-elected Admin and UNSC)
    The Govt has Never been Held Hostage by by a minority over an Already passed law.
    You STILL have not shown why that Faction of Congress (only one body thereof) is Not responsible for the shutdown.
    Nor your absurd and Empty Innuendo that it's merely the liberal media who's foisting.. the obvious.

    The Blind partisanry makes me ill and the board ******.
    I'm personally sick of not being able to dunk a basketball because of racism.
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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I don't approve of Obama's conduct with regards to exemptions. I'm not a partisan and don't try and justify the misdeeds of one party by blaming the other. I don't consider the democrats blameless in the matter, just that the tea party fanatics have truly crossed the line this time.
    The T.E.A. Party representatives are doing what the people that elected them told them to do. The American people are entitled to the same exemptions Obama has given his supporters and base. Blaming the Republicans is nothing more than political theater perpetuated by a willing press. The reality is quite different. Congress passed the law and should be forced onto the law.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Unlike you, I am not a Bot-anything.
    The Govt shut down because a wacked-faction of Congress, which Boehner accommodates but doesn't even agree with, has made it so.
    The OTHER "peoples" body, the Senate Disagrees.
    (as does the RE-elected Admin and UNSC)
    The Govt has Never been Held Hostage by by a minority over an Already passed law.
    You STILL have not shown why the Faction of Congress (only one body thereof) is Not responsible for the shutdown.
    Nor your absurd and Empty Innuendo that it's merely the liberal media whose foisting.. the obvious.

    The Blind partisanry makes me ill and the board ******.
    It doesn't appear that the House is refusing to negotiate. Why won't Obama negotiate?

    You can blame the Republicans until hell freezes over and yet that doesn't tell the entire story. You tell me where those exemptions Obama granted are listed in the original bill. Funding is the only option available to the party that had no input into the ACA and they are doing the will of the people that elected them.

    Ignoring the blind partisanship on the left makes me ill as well as well as the ignorance of the Obama supporter. That is exactly what Obama expects and is getting, ignorance from his base.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    You do NOT Change law by blackmailing funding for the Government.
    Why lie about what has happened? The House passed a bill that would have funded everything but Obamadon'tcare. Then they passed a billed that would have funded everything but just put a delay on Obamadon'tcare.

    It is exactly what has happened and will happen in the future with any budget bill. Some things get cut. Had the Dems gone about passing Obamadon'tcare in a way besides a budget bill, what is happening today probably would not be happening.
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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It doesn't appear that the House is refusing to negotiate. Why won't Obama negotiate?

    You can blame the Republicans until hell freezes over and yet that doesn't tell the entire story. You tell me where those exemptions Obama granted are listed in the original bill. Funding is the only option available to the party that had no input into the ACA and they are doing the will of the people that elected them.

    Ignoring the blind partisanship on the left makes me ill as well as well as the ignorance of the Obama supporter. That is exactly what Obama expects and is getting, ignorance from his base.
    the republicans have been making the repeal, delay, or defunding of the affordable care act a major demand for doing anything, they have tried passing 42 bills with the goal of defunding, delaying, or repealing the affordable care act.

    considering how much time and political capital it took to pass the affordable care act, it is hard to expect obama would consider discarding one of his major legislative achievements and what he spent a majorty of his first term trying to accomplish.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The T.E.A. Party representatives are doing what the people that elected them told them to do. The American people are entitled to the same exemptions Obama has given his supporters and base. Blaming the Republicans is nothing more than political theater perpetuated by a willing press. The reality is quite different. Congress passed the law and should be forced onto the law.
    You don't have the legislative support to make your opinions become law.You aren't a special snowflake and if you can't pull together enough people to get congress to pass it and the president to sign it, you don't get your way. That is how the political process in our nation works. Trying to undermine that process and damaging the nation because you can't succeed legitimately is not acceptable.

    The democrats have many sins to be held accountable for, but this kind of lunacy is in a class of its own.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the republicans have been making the repeal, delay, or defunding of the affordable care act a major demand for doing anything, they have tried passing 42 bills with the goal of defunding, delaying, or repealing the affordable care act.

    considering how much time and political capital it took to pass the affordable care act, it is hard to expect obama would consider discarding one of his major legislative achievements and what he spent a majorty of his first term trying to accomplish.
    The House is doing what the people of their districts sent them there to do. The bill was passed without any GOP support at all and is vastly unpopular in the nation. You seem to have a problem with true democracy and the way our govt. works.

    The ACA was passed without any GOP Votes and was done mostly behind closed doors, something you want to ignore. Tell me exactly why someone like you supports the ACA?

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