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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    Doubtful!!!
    But at least you tried !!
    LOL, feel free to counter anything that I posted here with more credible information. Interesting how those sites were never a problem during the Clinton term but now for some reason aren't credible, probably because they don't show Obama in a favorable light.

    Love liberals like you making claims like doubtful but never being specific and never offering data to refute the information. I call you a low information voter.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Age also does factor in.
    wow you mean the older ya get the moar likely yer gonna die?
    New Hope for the Wretched era

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    never a problem during the Clinton shenanigans
    Everyone knew Slick Willie was a total Dawg My wife was actually more upset with Hillary! At least now she's come out that she bats for both teams?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    I still recall my outrage when old William Jefferson shot some Tomahawks into Iraq on the eve of the Impeachment dealio
    whoda thunk it that the second black President would one up him by handing Syria to the Rooskies?

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How many times do I have to post this link?

    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    Copy it down and keep it for future reference.

    You want debt service by year, here you go, look up the budgets by year.

    Current Report: Combined Statement of Receipts, Outlays, and Balances of the United States Government (Combined Statement): Publications & Guidance: Financial Management Service

    The cost of the wars are in each yearly budget and deficit so what do any of that have to do with Obama's budgets? The Iraq War was ended by the Bush status of Forces Agreement in October 2008.

    You want GDP by year,

    http://www.bea.gov/iTable/iTable.cfm...step=1&isuri=1

    You want the unemployment and employment numbers by year, go here

    U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    Want me to post the charts for you? Hopefully someone here will actually do some research and learn something.
    1. So the debt doubled under Bush II (5 trillion to 9.3 trillion). Under Obama it has gone from 9 to 16, meaning it will double again by the time he is out. The increase from 9 to 16 is in a large part the due to the Iraq and Afghanistan wars that were started under Bush II. If you subtract 6 trillion from the amount the debt will be by the time Obama is out and the interest on the 9.3 trillion debt Obama inherited, it indicates the debt is nil.

    Iraq, Afghan wars will cost to $4 trillion to $6 trillion, Harvard study says - Washington Post
    Iraq, Afghan wars will cost to $4 trillion to $6 trillion, Harvard study says
    The U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq will cost taxpayers $4 trillion to $6 trillion, taking into account the medical care of wounded veterans and expensive repairs to a force depleted by more than a decade of fighting, according to a new study by a Harvard researcher.

    2. The link you gave me does not show the GDP prior to 2010. Obama took office in 2008. But from 2010 to present the GDP has increased; which means USA is producing more. So USA is going the right direction there, and I cannot see if GDP rose under Bush II.

    3. The truth about unemployment. Bill Clinton gave Bush II a 2.4% unemployment. While in office, Bush ran that up to 7.4% (while doling out a $700 billion bailout). Since Obama took office it went as high as 9.4%, but it is back to 7.8% which is almost what Bush II ran it up to. So the big culprit is the POTUS that ran it from 2.5% to 7.2% more so than the POTUS who went from 7.2% to 7.8%.
    Fact Check: Is unemployment rate higher since President Obama took office? | Connecticut 5th District
    Fact Check: Is unemployment rate higher since President Obama took office?
    In the past 30 years, the unemployment rate was as high as 7.2 percent in November 1982 before dipping to a low of 3 percent in November 1987; the next bust resulted in 7.4 percent unemployment in March 1992 during President George H.W. Bush’s administration before a steady recovery to a record low unemployment of 2.1 percent in Sept. 2000 when President Bill Clinton was in office.
    Starting in Jan. 20, 2001, at the beginning of George W. Bush’s administration, the rate was 2.4 percent, but by the time he left in January 2009 it had reached 7 percent, following the near collapse of the financial services industry and a government bailout of $700 billion in Oct. 2008 because of the subprime mortgage crisis.
    Barack Obama assumed office on Jan. 20, 2009 with the 7 percent rate, which continued to grow to 9.4 percent in August 2010, a three-decade high, and only started to slowly go down throughout 2011 to 8 percent in January 2012 and now to 7.8 percent in February.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    CNN had like a 12 hour countdown clock to Government shutdown, like it's the end of the world or something


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    Re: Most would blame Republicans



    That never gets old

    hah


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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Oh, boy, Rachel Maddow is having an absolute hissy fit that the government is shut down. She is going on, and on, and on about how the republicans wanted to do this all along. She's playing clip after clip of republicans okay with the government shutting down for a while. Boo friggin' hoo!

    She just can't believe that everyone doesn't worship the federal government like she and her fellow lefties do. She also can't stand that they "haven't passed any legislation into law" since the republicans took the House. OMG!!! The government is shut down! It's like the biggest disaster in the world to her. How could they do this? What a joke she is. She just can't contain herself, she is so upset. And showing us what she cares about - big government. Another jerk that is destroying my country.
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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Obomba gave his buddies a year extension. All the republicans are doing is holding out for a year for everyone else. Even though the media isn't reporting this important fact, it will come out election time.

    I think the "D's" will lose badly.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Shockingly, we're all still here. That being said, this kind of fight never works out well for Republicans. It was poor strategy to hold the CR hostage to delaying the individual mandate.

    Personally, I'd say the best way for Republicans to win in 2014 is to let the mandate take effect.

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