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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    So you do recognize a shutdown will negatively effect the economy.
    There will be one way to find out, shut it down!!!

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    and the democrats in the senate didn't vote on the house bills change it and send it back?
    look i can potentially see a argument to be made about the democrats being the unreasonable party, if this was the only time republicans demanding a delay in implementing the affordable care act in exchange for funding the government.

    However one has to take into account that the republicans have voted to delay, repeal, or defund the affordable care act at least 40 times before, and now they are trying to accomplish the same thing as what the previous 40 votes tried to do, only thing is that they are making it their key demand over a continuing resolution to fund the government and avert a government shutdown.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How many times do I have to post this link?

    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    Copy it down and keep it for future reference.

    You want debt service by year, here you go, look up the budgets by year.

    Current Report: Combined Statement of Receipts, Outlays, and Balances of the United States Government (Combined Statement): Publications & Guidance: Financial Management Service

    The cost of the wars are in each yearly budget and deficit so what do any of that have to do with Obama's budgets? The Iraq War was ended by the Bush status of Forces Agreement in October 2008.

    You want GDP by year,

    http://www.bea.gov/iTable/iTable.cfm...step=1&isuri=1

    You want the unemployment and employment numbers by year, go here

    U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    Want me to post the charts for you? Hopefully someone here will actually do some research and learn something.
    Doubtful!!!
    But at least you tried !!

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama hasn't spent less,
    Of course spending has been cut, both in terms of spending trends and in real spending since 2009.
    he has spent more and still have 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers.
    Overall spending declines by govt has resulted in massive job losses, the idea that federal and state/local spending are intertwined is a basic failure of your propaganda.


    Only in the liberal world is keeping more of what you earn an expense to the govt.
    Reducing revenue does not cause debts to remain....is a conservative argument.

    A govt. shutdown is the liberal's way of diverting again from the terrible Obama performance and a way to delegate responsibility which no leader can ever do.
    Um, causing a shutdown over health care is the way conservatives want to further damage the US economy. Your flip-flop on whether it will damage the economy is noted.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There will be one way to find out, shut it down!!!
    I already showed that just the DEBATE on debt limit damaged the economy.....but that is what conservatives wanted.

    This all stems from Ryan's insistence on spending cuts in exchange for the 2011 debt limit compromise.
    Cons get what they want....but they still act unhappy.

    What an act!
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    look i can potentially see a argument to be made about the democrats being the unreasonable party, if this was the only time republicans demanding a delay in implementing the affordable care act in exchange for funding the government.

    However one has to take into account that the republicans have voted to delay, repeal, or defund the affordable care act at least 40 times before, and now they are trying to accomplish the same thing as what the previous 40 votes tried to do, only thing is that they are making it their key demand over a continuing resolution to fund the government and avert a government shutdown.
    my point made is WHY DID CNN LEAVE OUT THE QUESTION? WHY WASNT CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS NOT INCLUDED IN THE POLL THEY ARE AS MUCH PART OF THE PROCESS AS CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS

    I will tell you why either they are scared the democrats will get as much or maybe even more of the blame, or that they did ask the question didn't like the results and left it out of their reporting. either way it shows a bias and pushing an agenda and a narrative of CNN blaming republicans no matter what and a cherry picking poll to reinforce that false narrative

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    my point made is WHY DID CNN LEAVE OUT THE QUESTION? WHY WASNT CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS NOT INCLUDED IN THE POLL THEY ARE AS MUCH PART OF THE PROCESS AS CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS

    I will tell you why either they are scared the democrats will get as much or maybe even more of the blame, or that they did ask the question didn't like the results and left it out of their reporting. either way it shows a bias and pushing an agenda and a narrative of CNN blaming republicans no matter what and a cherry picking poll to reinforce that false narrative
    is the washington post also part of the conspiracy?

    POLL: Just one in four approve of Republicans handling of government shutdown standoff

    and here is the poll
    606budgetpoll2.jpg

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Personally, I think that republicans do indeed share in the blame, but you can't put it all on them when people want compromise, house republicans do exactly that, and demo's come back with 'NO, our way, or nothing, and we will lie and blame you for it....!'
    The Republicans came back with another demand. They haven't put anything on the table in exchange and their "or else" is essentially allowing the Democrats to watch the Republican Congressman be eviscerated in the polls. I'd be happy to watch the GOP implode. Or they could actually compromise, sweeten the pot, and offer the Democrats something big enough to match what they are asking for.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There will be one way to find out, shut it down!!!
    The nihilism of conservatism in full flower. Fortunately after the next election the tea party will be nothing more than a bad memory.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    News Flash, "letting people keep more" (reducing revenue) contributes to debt.
    It's easy to see who you voted for!! What causes debt is government spending money they don't have. The same holds true for a household.
    If you reduce spending in a depressed economy, you make the economy worse. Austerity in a time of depressed demand extends the depressed economy. The Austerians have lost this argument.
    So now that Obama has spent $7,000,000,000,000 of money he doesn't have, a debt Americans will likely never be able to repay, what has anyone but his crony capitalist friends got to show for it?

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