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Thread: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Congress has passed all sorts of laws that later it reconsidered. Otherwise slavery would still be legal and women still property of their husbands. The people hate this Obamacare crap, and they're going to hate it even more the longer it's allowed to continue. The ONLY ones who are for this nightmare are the ones who get free stuff, now there's a surprise.

    Democrats didn't read this turd before passage, nor did they know what was in it. They wanted to pass a big signature bill for their signature president. The American people be damned.
    I agree with you about laws being repealed, obviously they must be repealed and revisited...I didn't accurately communicate what I meant.

    Slavery is a great example...it was around for 250 years before it was repealed (if that's the right term...). ACA has mostly not even gone into effect.
    My issue is with the process, the holding hostage of the country's well being to try to accomplish a goal, and then saying the other side is responsible for "not negotiating." Using a threat that will affect millions of Americans to accomplish a legislative goal...it's not appropriate. Why should Democrats negotiate under this type of threat? Congress has every right to repeal laws, but we don't know yet how this law even affects people. As far as I know, the vast majority of people will not be affected at all...if you have health insurance through your employer, for instance.

    But again, point taken about repealing laws, of course it has to happen sometimes. If this law is as disastrous as some seem to think, I will help repeal it! But easy on the shutdowns!
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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    A complete non-sequtur, a shutdown will have a negative effect on the economy, regardless of how you want to propagandize the cause.

    If it had no negative effect, then it would be pointless to assign blame.
    The Obama performance that has been negative on the economy hasn't seemed to bother you, now he has another excuse for poor performance. all a shutdown will do is give the non information voter more Obama rhetoric to throw at the public, His 44% JAR speaks volumes to those paying attention. A govt. shutdown will be due to Obama and Reid, not the GOP House. Sorry but compromise doesn't mean giving in to everything Obama wants.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    democrats in the house don't have enough votes to derail anything the republican leadership wants to put up to a vote. the house is governed by majority rule so the only the thing preventing a republican bill from proceeding to the senate is if the republican caucuas revolts against house leadership.

    the senate operates on different procedural rules then the house, that is why there are things like the filibuster.
    and the democrats in the senate didn't vote on the house bills change it and send it back?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    LOL !!!

    SO ?!!?!

    So the idiots, who're responsible for Obama's election and then in-turn the desperately weak economy are going to blame the GOP ????


    Good.

    They need to shut it down.
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    " Return to Power By Any Means Necessary "

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    He shouldnt have to on a bill that is law and has been 5 years past. Plus he was reelected as well. Republicans look very stupid in this!
    He gave exemptions after the bill was signed, why not exempt the American people?

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Perhaps, if I type slower, you'll be able to understand the concept.

    NO LESS REVENUE DOESN'T INCREASE DEBT - SPENDING MORE THAN YOU TAKE IN INCREASES DEBT.
    News Flash, "letting people keep more" (reducing revenue) contributes to debt.

    IF YOU FIND YOURSELF WITH LESS REVENUE, SPEND LESS.
    If you reduce spending in a depressed economy, you make the economy worse. Austerity in a time of depressed demand extends the depressed economy. The Austerians have lost this argument.

    I won't hold my breath expecting any "miraculous transformations" in return - and with that, have a good night - useless conversations are a waste of my time - and go right ahead, claim I'm running away and you win - you wouldn't be a liberal if that wasn't the expected response to anyone unwilling to endlessly participate in such mindless liberal drivel.
    If I were you, I would leave this thread too.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    News Flash, "letting people keep more" (reducing revenue) contributes to debt.

    If you reduce spending in a depressed economy, you make the economy worse. Austerity in a time of depressed demand extends the depressed economy. The Austerians have lost this argument.

    If I were you, I would leave this thread too.
    Obama hasn't spent less, he has spent more and still have 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers. Only in the liberal world is keeping more of what you earn an expense to the govt. A govt. shutdown is the liberal's way of diverting again from the terrible Obama performance and a way to delegate responsibility which no leader can ever do.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    now he has another excuse for poor performance.
    So you do recognize a shutdown will negatively effect the economy.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    If I were you, I would leave this thread too.
    Fortunately, you don't rule the thread, and I place as much worth on your advice as your knowledge.

    Besides, there are many intelligent people posting here and I enjoy their input, even with the useless background noise that can't be filtered out.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    So you do recognize a shutdown will negatively effect the economy.
    Nope, it will be another excuse for the poor Obama performance and that is what the Obama Administration and supporters like you will claim.

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