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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Totally understand but the question was about creating jobs and how the govt. affects job creation. Keystone Pipeline delays is one example. The people of Nebraska want it so why does a bureaucrat in D.C. have any say?
    Nebraska is only one state out of several that are affected.
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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Nebraska is only one state out of several that are affected.
    Name for me a state that is against it? Nebraska is what stalled it in the first place

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

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    Name for me a state that is against it? Nebraska is what stalled it in the first place
    I would argue Oklahoma. Cushing's economy would be destroyed.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you really want to compare this country to Japan? Inflation in Japan is rampant. What is it about liberalism that creates ignorance of what is going on in the world. Trying to justify 100% debt to GDP ration? that just goes to who how little you really know. It is one thing to have debt of 50-60% GDP and generate the kind of results someone like Reagan generated or 100% debt to GDP ratio with the results Obama has generated. You see at least with strong economic growth and job creation there is a chance to pay down that debt

    How does the Obama economic policies promote growth?
    Why is it that you like to make unfounded statements? Inflation is not "rampant" in Japan, in fact they are still dealing with a DEFLATION problem.
    Except for the stimulus, most of Obama's pro-growth policies have been thwarted by the opposition but at least he has resisted the anti-growth austerity measures that put Europe into a double dip recession.

    The inflation rate in Japan was recorded at 0.91 percent in August of 2013. Inflation Rate in Japan is reported by the Ministry of Internal Affairs & Communications. Japan Inflation Rate averaged 3.17 Percent from 1958 until 2013, reaching an all time high of 25 Percent in February of 1974 and a record low of -2.52 Percent in October of 2009. In Japan, the most important categories in the consumer price index are Food (25 percent of total weight) and Housing (21 percent). Transportation and communications accounts for 14 percent; Culture and recreation for 11.5 percent; Fuel, light and water charges for 7 percent; Medical care for 4.3 percent; Clothes and footwear for 4 percent. Furniture and household utensils, Education and Miscellaneous goods and services account for the remaining. This page contains - Japan Inflation Rate - actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news. 2013-10-13

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I would argue Oklahoma. Cushing's economy would be destroyed.
    Doesn't appear to be the case

    Oklahoma business leaders voice support for Keystone XL | News OK

    Not only are we talking construction jobs bot crude oil getting to the refineries to assist our economy to grow.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Doesn't appear to be the case

    Oklahoma business leaders voice support for Keystone XL | News OK

    Not only are we talking construction jobs bot crude oil getting to the refineries to assist our economy to grow.
    the total job creation keystone would create is insignificant compared to the actual number of unemployed people.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Totally understand but the question was about creating jobs and how the govt. affects job creation. Keystone Pipeline delays is one example. The people of Nebraska want it so why does a bureaucrat in D.C. have any say?
    As long as the pipeline stays within the borders of Nebraska, I say go for it.

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    Re: Let's get back to our Constitutional Basis

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Which Constitutional law class did you fail?

    Heck- in 1798, Congress and John Adams passed a healthcare bill for merchant seamen. Taxing every ship to pay for it. I'm pretty sure many of those guys actually WROTE the Constitution....
    I have actually read the Constitution.

    Here is what it says in Article 1 Section 8, "The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts, and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States.

    That is all -- three purposes. To pay the debts, to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the US.

    There is a large and growing discussion on this very topic. It is quite interesting.

    Those on the left argue that MessiahCare is therefore Constitutional since there is a precedent for collecting money from seamen leaving foreign ports and entering American ports. Others argue that this was part of the Congresses obligation to regulate commerce, back when that actually meant regulating commerce and not just a means to subvert the rest of the Constitution.

    Interestingly it does offer another glimpse into what will happen with MesiahCare. About 25 years after it was implemented it went bankrupt. I could not find when the act was repealed. I will wait for someone else to find it.

    If MesiahCare is constitutional based on the historical precedent may we please have a return to slavery? It need not be based on skin color. Let's sell off the massive number of welfare recipients who drain us of our resources and actually get something of value for the trillions we spend paying people to breed and not work. Deal?

    And why be obnoxious?

    I am able to read at or above the tenth grade level. That is all that is required to understand the Constitution.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Why is it that you like to make unfounded statements? Inflation is not "rampant" in Japan, in fact they are still dealing with a DEFLATION problem.
    Most of Obama's pro-growth policies have been thwarted by the opposition but at least he has resisted the anti-growth austerity measures that put Europe into a double dip recession.
    Rather interesting that once again you doubt the numbers I post and claim they are unfounded. try buying a hamburger in Japan and see what it costs.

    Why are Retail Prices in Japan so High?: Evidence from German Export Prices

    Is there anything that anyone can post that would convert you from a liberal? Obviously results don't matter

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the total job creation keystone would create is insignificant compared to the actual number of unemployed people.
    That is your opinion but as usual you look at the small picture and not the big one which is downstream and what that product would do after getting to the refineries.

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