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Thread: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    again, avoiding the question put to you, which is par for the course i know...i asked you a very, very, VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY simple question, and since you can't answer it, you go off on a tangent, dodging, deflecting, getting personal...again, par for the course when you have been cornered, and beaten. oh well, NEXT!!!!!
    I have answered every direct question you have given me, you choose to ignore the answer and claim that there was no answer. Maybe in addition to a civics course you ought to take an English course as well.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    You can count on the democrats losing both houses and electing a republican president who will repeal this BS in 2016 if this ever gets implemented, as-is...
    Didn't I hear the same thing about 2012?
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The reality is that every Court since the New Deal has decided in favor of the very programs that you hate and loathe.

    The reality is that every Congress since the New Deal has supported them with legislation and funding.

    The reality is that every President since FDR has given them their blessing with their signature on legislation.

    It was your precious conservatives who formed the one vote majority in Citizens United. One recent decision decided by a slim one vote. So much the previous law.
    the reality is the dem court broke years of precedent because it was pussy whipped by FDR's illegal threat to pack the court. By the time conservatives took over, they did what faint hearted conservatives do-respected the dishonest precedent that FDRs' pet monkeys had put into place.

    You seem unable to address that fact



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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I would prefer a dollar plan. For every dollar of immediate debt ceiling increase we have a dollar of immediate spending cuts. Not cuts promised sometime in the future. Immediate. The implementing legislation for adding 8 billion dollars of debt ceiling increase should close down the EPA.
    For another 60 billion in debt ceiling increase we can close down the education department and return student loans to the private sector of the economy where it belongs.

    Dollar for dollar. Immediate budget cuts for immediate debt ceiling increases.
    What happens when the first thing to go is the Park Service and White House tours?
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    What happens when the first thing to go is the Park Service and White House tours?
    Did you notice that the state of Arizona and the state of S. Dakota paid the Federal Govt. to keep the Grand Canyon and Mt. Rushmore open. Amazing what can be done when the govt. contracts out operations.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly but it is the role of govt. to create the atmosphere to create jobs and Obama hasn't done that with his rhetoric and his legislation.
    he must speak in a way to bring jobs back!
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it really isn't. Many would see that if democrats were doing it. It's more of a temper tantrum than anything else.
    Yes. Really it is. Legislation by appropriation has occurred from the beginning. There have been times when I hated it. This time I like it.

    Call it what you want. If it slows down the rolling tyranny I am for it. I am cheering for the nation. I am cheering for the House Republicans. Let us hope they do not cave.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    What happens when the first thing to go is the Park Service and White House tours?
    Sounds good to me. Privatize them.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    he must speak in a way to bring jobs back!
    Speaking positively will certainly help but things like demonizing individual wealth creation, proposing higher taxes, ACA, regulations that stop the Keystone Pipeline and demonize coal production, regulations that discourage right to work states to bring in non union businesses certainly don't help.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, my point is that you have to spend according to your income, just as most responsible adults do. That option doesn't seem to have occurred to you, which is part of my larger point concerning a responsible and adult electorate.
    Which country does that? I don't think there is a western nation that has no debt or does not run deficits every year. Why is it that you think they are all being irresponsible? What makes you the decider? What if cutting spending is not an option? Is raising taxes to cover the deficit worth doing? Or would you rather have some deficits?

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