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Thread: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Only in the liberal mind, people who think that we don't spend enough. You and your ilk have run up a 6.4 trillion dollar debt and now have a problem with a 400 billion cut in Federal spending? I don't think I would be spouting that someone else doesn't understand the economy and what the components of GDP are. You are apparently safe in your job but there are 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers today plus millions and millions on food stamps and other taxpayer assisted programs.

    The Obama Administration and liberal elites love having people like you carry the water for them as you buy what you are told and ignore the actual results. Like all good little Obamabots cutting the waste, fraud, and abuse in D.C. is taking an axe and will starve kids, kill seniors, and pollute the air. Economic growth is a foreign concept to liberals like you.
    again, avoiding the question put to you, which is par for the course i know...i asked you a very, very, VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY simple question, and since you can't answer it, you go off on a tangent, dodging, deflecting, getting personal...again, par for the course when you have been cornered, and beaten. oh well, NEXT!!!!!

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And the reality is that the United States is $17,000.000.000.000 in debt with obligations extending past $70 trillion more.

    Adults would point out that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. But when you encourage people to remain adolescents all their lives then that is just how they'll respond. The government is now your mama and daddy.
    It was adults who comprised the Supreme Court for the last 70 plus years.
    It was adults who held the White House for the last 70 plus years.
    It was adults who made up each and every Congress for the last 70 plus years.

    Your point about the debt is perfect evidence why we need to raise taxes and stop living off the credit card.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It was adults who comprised the Supreme Court for the last 70 plus years.
    It was adults who held the White House for the last 70 plus years.
    It was adults who made up each and every Congress for the last 70 plus years.

    Your point about the debt is perfect evidence why we need to raise taxes and stop living off the credit card.
    No, my point is that you have to spend according to your income, just as most responsible adults do. That option doesn't seem to have occurred to you, which is part of my larger point concerning a responsible and adult electorate.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    The Affordable Care Act is still law. Congress didn't discard it.

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    You can count on the democrats losing both houses and electing a republican president who will repeal this BS in 2016 if this ever gets implemented, as-is...

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    The Affordable Care Act is still law. Congress didn't discard it.

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    No one said they did. They are trying to force their will outside the normal process. Acting ignorant is not a good tactic.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    It just seems like a conflict of interest. The opposing side could have a different motivation for giving "good advice".

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    If you have good critical thinking skills, you should be able to assess advice no matter where it comes from.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    My solution, agree to cut govt. spending 15% across the board in consideration for raising the debt ceiling for 6 months and make those cuts mandatory.
    I would prefer a dollar plan. For every dollar of immediate debt ceiling increase we have a dollar of immediate spending cuts. Not cuts promised sometime in the future. Immediate. The implementing legislation for adding 8 billion dollars of debt ceiling increase should close down the EPA.
    For another 60 billion in debt ceiling increase we can close down the education department and return student loans to the private sector of the economy where it belongs.

    Dollar for dollar. Immediate budget cuts for immediate debt ceiling increases.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one said they did. They are trying to force their will outside the normal process. Acting ignorant is not a good tactic.
    Boo, this is the normal process. And this is precisely why our government has these checks and balances.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    But wait it is not the role of government to create jobs.....?
    Exactly but it is the role of govt. to create the atmosphere to create jobs and Obama hasn't done that with his rhetoric and his legislation.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Boo, this is the normal process. And this is precisely why our government has these checks and balances.
    No, it really isn't. Many would see that if democrats were doing it. It's more of a temper tantrum than anything else.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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