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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Look, Kids, another liberal easily confused by U.S. Economics and actual data.

    Tell me which Obama should we believe

    2006



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    No question about it, you will never let facts get in the way of your personal opinion and love for the entitlement state.
    The funny thing is, you think you've made an argument.

    Meanwhile, debt is only a longterm problem, which growth will solve. Cutting government is just a conservative fetish, unrelated to any economic reality. But that won't stop you from perseverating about it.

    But I'm all for cutting the military to the bone -- it's virtually deadweight on the economy. I'm glad you're with me on that. Shall we cut this unproductive expenditure by 3/4ths. How's that?

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

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    Hey, those are awesome, isn't the Obama employment record great?

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNS12000000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
    Labor force status: Employed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Years: 1980 to 2011

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
    2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
    2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
    2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
    2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
    2006 143150 143457 143741 143761 144089 144353 144202 144625 144815 145314 145534 145970
    2007 146028 146057 146320 145586 145903 146063 145905 145682 146244 145946 146595 146273
    2008 146397 146157 146108 146130 145929 145738 145530 145196 145059 144792 144078 143328
    2009 142187 141660 140754 140654 140294 140003 139891 139458 138775 138401 138607 137968
    2010 138500 138665 138836 139306 139340 139137 139139 139338 139344 139072 138937 139220
    2011 139330 139551 139764 139628 139808 139385 139450 139754 140107 140297 140614 140790
    2012 141608 142019 142020 141934 142302 142448 142250 142164 142974 143328 143277 143305
    2013 143322 143492 143286 143579 143898 144058 144285 144170
    144 million working Americans today, a decline vs. last month on a labor force that isn't keeping up with population growth. Says a lot about discouraged and under employed people. Guess those part time jobs are excellent for Obama supporters who really show their compassion.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The funny thing is, you think you've made an argument.

    Meanwhile, debt is only a longterm problem, which growth will solve. Cutting government is just a conservative fetish, unrelated to any economic reality. But that won't stop you from perseverating about it.

    But I'm all for cutting the military to the bone -- it's virtually deadweight on the economy. I'm glad you're with me on that. Shall we cut this unproductive expenditure by 3/4ths. How's that?
    Of course you are until a family member gets killed because the American govt. didn't do its Constitutional duties which is to protect the people of this country. Interesting how little you know about the budget. If the entire military budget was cut completely Obama still would have had huge deficits, higher than any Bush had. What you don't seem to understand is that Obama proposed a 3.77 trillion dollar budget and expects the deficit to drop because he wants to raise the taxes 80 billion dollars a year on those evil rich people. You see, liberalism is a joke and being a progressive is even worse.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    None of your stated accusations are true. You are now slinging insults and you need to be careful with that type of speech.
    What kind of speech? The truth?

    I often find liberals offended by the truth. Having been surrounded by comfortable lies most of their lives, the truth sometimes has a jarring effect.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Of course you are until a family member gets killed because the American govt. didn't do its Constitutional duties which is to protect the people of this country. Interesting how little you know about the budget. If the entire military budget was cut completely Obama still would have had huge deficits, higher than any Bush had. What you don't seem to understand is that Obama proposed a 3.77 trillion dollar budget and expects the deficit to drop because he wants to raise the taxes 80 billion dollars a year on those evil rich people. You see, liberalism is a joke and being a progressive is even worse.
    So you're not for cutting Big Gummit after all!

    I thought not!

    Thanks for proving once again the dishonesty of conservatism (and the paranoia that feeds it)

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    So you're not for cutting Big Gummit after all!

    I thought not!

    Thanks for proving once again the dishonesty of conservatism (and the paranoia that feeds it)
    Responsible cutting yes, irresponsible no, you think a 3.77 trillion dollar budget is responsible? Where are those Obama cuts?

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Hey, those are awesome, isn't the Obama employment record great?
    You prove once again you ignore the context....of YOUR OWN ARGUMENT.

    You stated that shutdowns via budget impasses (debt limits/stopping CR's) do not "under(mine?) the economy".

    I show they certainly do.

    You go off ignoring your own argument.

    This is why it is pointless to have debates with you. You never even acknowledge the absolute failures of your arguments, you just go on to the next failure, repeated ad nauseum.

    Carry on.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame

    Barack Obama has a 44% Job Approval rating and is willing to give exemptions to large campaign contributors and Congress has no problem exempting themselves from Obamacare yet liberals here believe that the GOP will bear the brunt of any shutdown? Obama claims he wants to compromise so please someone give me an Obama compromise on the GOP budget request? Obama compromises, no Govt. shutdown, he doesn't, he is responsible for that shutdown

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is your opinion but others disagree with you believing the double dip in 81-82 was worse. Obstructionism is a term used by liberal politicians to appeal to the low information voters that support Obama. You see, leadership is about taking the hand you are dealt and solving the problems. Obama hasn't gotten the hand he was dealt yet as apparently it wasn't delivered to the golf courses or while he was in vacation. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of ignorance that you are showing.
    Speaking of 'low information voters' (aka stupid people), here is their conservative candidate reading from his teleprompter. Obama says adding $4 trillion to debt is unpatriotic. - YouTube

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