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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually its an appeal to historical and legal reality. REALITY. More than seventy years of everyday political, legal and governmental reality.

    REALITY. A fundamental concept that all must either live with or create an alternate reality in another world other than the one rational people live in.

    Nonsense FDR raped the constitution and his lapdog justices allowed it to happen. 20 years of Dem appointments to the court meant that the GOP was dealing with years of "precedent" when they finally got some of their own judges in office.

    Reality-you cannot make a good argument for what FDR did based either on

    1) the original intent and language of the Constitution

    2) the Precedent that existed at the time the New Deal started to get foisted on us



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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Nonsense FDR raped the constitution and his lapdog justices allowed it to happen. 20 years of Dem appointments to the court meant that the GOP was dealing with years of "precedent" when they finally got some of their own judges in office.

    Reality-you cannot make a good argument for what FDR did based either on

    1) the original intent and language of the Constitution

    2) the Precedent that existed at the time the New Deal started to get foisted on us
    I wonder why you keep repeating the same nonsense over and over and over again in thread after thread after thread for one month after another month after another month when I have repeatedly told you that if you want the argument for the FDR New Deal laws all you have to do is read the original Supreme Court decisions. The best argument is made there....... and the only real argument that counts....... and that includes the opinion of both you and I.

    Its funny to watch you moan and whine about over 70 years of American jurisprudence when it goes against your own extremist ideology.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Its funny to watch you moan and whine about over 70 years of American jurisprudence when it goes against your own extremist ideology.
    Its funny watching your posts lionize decisions that further the socialist agenda but then they piss and moan about say "Citizens United" which does not or Gore v Bush which slapped down a democratic clown show in the Florida Supreme Court ("SCOFLAW")



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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its funny watching your posts lionize decisions that further the socialist agenda but then they piss and moan about say "Citizens United" which does not or Gore v Bush which slapped down a democratic clown show in the Florida Supreme Court ("SCOFLAW")

    BBBBBZZZZZTTTTTTT!!!!!!! that loud buzzer is telling you that your comments about Citizens United have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion of FDR and the Supreme Court upholding the New Deal legislation.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    BBBBBZZZZZTTTTTTT!!!!!!! that loud buzzer is telling you that your comments about Citizens United have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion of FDR and the Supreme Court upholding the New Deal legislation.
    those who understand irony would note that invoking supreme court decisions as proof something is RIGHT, means you have to accept it when the USSC makes decisions your posts complain about.

    the thing objective thinkers understand is that the Court is not infallible and the best you can do is to say that the current law is whatever the USSC says it is but that doesn't prove it is "just" "correct" or even consistent with the intent of the constitution



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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    those who understand irony would note that invoking supreme court decisions as proof something is RIGHT, means you have to accept it when the USSC makes decisions your posts complain about.

    the thing objective thinkers understand is that the Court is not infallible and the best you can do is to say that the current law is whatever the USSC says it is but that doesn't prove it is "just" "correct" or even consistent with the intent of the constitution
    It is enough that it is current law. Until changed. So, no whining. Go back to work and try to win by working within the system.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If the GOP lets Obamacare go, let's the Dems take FULL ownership of it without GOP support at all, They will probably win the senate, keep the house, and get the presidency in 2016.
    It cracks me up when the enemy gives strategic tips to their opponents. giggle giggle snicker snicker

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Go back to work and try to win by working within the system.
    The system is being used right now. Are you referring to a different system that they are not using?

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    It cracks me up when the enemy gives strategic tips to their opponents. giggle giggle snicker snicker

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    Of course, good advice should be heeded no matter where it comes from.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    The system is being used right now. Are you referring to a different system that they are not using?

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    No, it isn't. Laws once pasted and upheld usually go into effect while to opposition works to win elections so they can actually effect changes to it. That is our system.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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