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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If you don't know what he meant why not ask him instead of guessing at the question?

    It seems all Barrack supporters have problems with comprehension and it seems certain that Teacher's Unions are largely responsible for this situation.
    Conservative doesn't debate. He rehashes the same ole sophistry over and over. Then plays 10,000 questions.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post

    Debt is increased when expenditures exceed revenue (this activity has nothing to do with the debt ceiling).
    Nothing to do with it? Well when they change the law (pay attention liberals; the current debt ceiling is "the law of the land" LOL and it's going to be changed. Think Obamadon'tcare silly arguments) to raise the debt ceiling why won't they pass a law outlawing increased debt?
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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Read Aaron Carrolls series on this. Heres the conclusion:How do we rate the qdifferent countries use different methodsof the US health care system


    And for your convenience, heres the start:
    How do we rate the quality of the US health care system – Introduction | The Incidental Economist
    Do you find any of these analyses compelling? Really? None of the statistics provide good measures because he doesn't take into account base rates, not to mention that oftentimes different countries use different methodologies for the "same" statistic.


    The survey info is a joke. Can we really rank quality of care based on whether people think their doctors spend a lot of time with them, or are very familiar with their history? Or whether they believe that system needs to be overhauled? If this is supposed to provide an indicator for quality of care, why not ask about quality of care, lol. The physician survey is similarly useless. Our quality of care is poor because fewer physicians in the US say that they use electronic records? Did they bother to ask why? Many doctors refuse to implement such systems because they believe it REDUCES the quality of care.


    It would be wonderful if we could effectively study something like this by spending a few nights looking up data on the internet and posting a few excel graphs and your naive interpretation on a blog, but that's just not reality.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Nothing to do with it? Well when they change the law (pay attention liberals; the current debt ceiling is "the law of the land" LOL and it's going to be changed. Think Obamadon'tcare silly arguments) to raise the debt ceiling why won't they pass a law outlawing increased debt?
    Look, we have a deficit economic infrastructure... we can have quite an argument as to why... but that isn't the point. Raising or not raising the debt limit really has nothing to do with whether the debt it going to increase. Its going to increase regardless of the "decision" congress makes in this regard. Only someone with no understanding of economics and government finance would think that not raising the debt limit would mean that debt will not go up.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Weren't you the one disparaging FDR a few days ago?
    I sure hope so, he really created lots of long term problems for this country and most of the malignant spread of government can be tied to the crap he and his judges foisted on us



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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I sure hope so, he really created lots of long term problems for this country and most of the malignant spread of government can be tied to the crap he and his judges foisted on us
    Yeah. To bad Hoover failed to win re-election.

    Do you guys ever think about what you are actually saying? Srsly?

    BTW, thank the god that does not exist that there are fewer than 30% who think like this.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Yeah. To bad Hoover failed to win re-election.

    Do you guys ever think about what you are actually saying? Srsly?
    yes I have. having studied constitutional law for 3 decades I am fully aware of the damage FDR and his administration did to the boundaries that were placed on what was supposed to be a limited federal government.



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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yes I have. having studied constitutional law for 3 decades I am fully aware of the damage FDR and his administration did to the boundaries that were placed on what was supposed to be a limited federal government.
    Well, what you studied obviously led you to conclude stupid.

    Go on the record. Tell us we would be better off today if Herbert Hoover won the election in 1932.

    I dare ya.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    I just liked both you and TD because you both made me laugh out loud and stretch for #1714 and #1715, and talk to my wife..
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    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Yeah. To bad Hoover failed to win re-election.

    Do you guys ever think about what you are actually saying? Srsly?

    BTW, thank the god that does not exist that there are fewer than 30% who think like this.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Well, what you studied obviously led you to conclude stupid.

    Go on the record. Tell us we would be better off today if Herbert Hoover won the election in 1932.

    I dare ya.
    you are making silly comments. Most of FDR's rape of the constitution took place after he won reelection in 1936 and then started to threaten to pack the court. That lead to the idiotic rejection of 100+ years of precedent by a cowardly and thoroughly pussy-whipped supreme court. We'd been a lot better off if FDR had been defeated in 1936



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