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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    You need to see that in context. What you repeated gives a false representation of what he said.

    Keep it up, and people might think you are a liar.
    What is the correct representation?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I believe I heard two people say yes and noticed the YouTube video cut off quickly generating I guess the propaganda liberals wanted. Suggest you read the transcript and of the actual encounter. Please explain to me what is it about liberalism that creates such strong need to distort for political gain? Do you have a vested interest in liberalism? What is it about personal responsibility and neighbor helping neighbor that you don't understand? Do you think that individual without healthcare doesn't get treatment funded BY THE STATES? I cannot believe how brainwashed you and others are
    He goes on to talk about how charities have traditionally, and some that still do step in.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    He did not use the words "let them die". He asked why is that his problem?

    This is like a man standing on the shore next to a life raft watching another man drown. You ask the man standing on the shore, "Why are you letting the other man drown? Do you want him to drown". And the first man says' I'm not letting him drown, it's simply not my responsibility to throw the life raft.
    It's more like a man forcing you at gunpoint to build a raft for the guy down the beach because he might need a raft at some point, but doesn't want build one for himself.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    He goes on to talk about how charities have traditionally, and some that still do step in.
    So its' let charities take care of the uninsured, unless they can't.. Then let them die.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    He did not use the words "let them die". He asked why is that his problem?

    This is like a man standing on the shore next to a life raft watching another man drown. You ask the man standing on the shore, "Why are you letting the other man drown? Do you want him to drown". And the first man says' I'm not letting him drown, it's simply not my responsibility to throw the life raft.

    He may not have used those exact words, but there is absolutely no other explanation for what Ron Paul said. There are uninsured people that need medicine or they'll die. There are only three possible choices. 1) All of the insured people pay more to cover the uninsured (the previous system), 2). Everyone pays and everyone is insured, 3). We let them die.

    Ron Paul wants #3. Own it. Don't pretend you don't believe something because it's not a political winner.
    Right! He didn't say it. You lied. Why?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    It's more like a man forcing you at gunpoint to build a raft for the guy down the beach because he might need a raft at some point, but doesn't want build one for himself.
    It's more like forcing the man who doesn't want to build a raft, to help build a raft at gunpoint.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    So its' let charities take care of the uninsured, unless they can't.. Then let them die.
    How about people taking responsibility for themselves?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How about people taking responsibility for themselves?
    aka let them die.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    He goes on to talk about how charities have traditionally, and some that still do step in.
    Charities are an order of magnitude too small to handle the need.

    Once you admit to the usefulness of charities, you recognize the need. If you recognize the need, then you have to address the issue and find a total solution....or just ignore it.
    Last edited by Gimmesometruth; 10-11-13 at 02:07 PM.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How about people taking responsibility for themselves?
    Right, this is ignoring the need. Do not help your neighbor. It is anti society.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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