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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Don't drag conservatives into this. I said that the TEA PARTY is interested in wrecking government. And yes, the TEA PARTY wants all of those things. Remember the GOP primaries? The TEA PARTY cheered when Ron Paul said let the uninsured die.

    Conservatism is a serious political philosophy. It is not nihilism. Conservatives are interested in making government work better. You are not a conservative.
    Wrong, been a conservative for a lot longer than you have and I will take the Conservative philosophy any day over the failures of liberalism where the answer is always throw someone else's money at the problem. You really need to get away from the leftwing sites, no conservative and no Republican wants the uninsured to die, what they do want however is for people to accept personal responsibility for their own healthcare. I suggest you focus on liberal greed instead of personal greed as that would make you more credible.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Do you know what appropriate means?

    Sure do, do you? You think the Congress spends the money for the Dept. of Defense and other govt. agencies? When I see people like you posting this crap I really don't know whether to cry or laugh.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Don't drag conservatives into this. I said that the TEA PARTY is interested in wrecking government. And yes, the TEA PARTY wants all of those things. Remember the GOP primaries? The TEA PARTY cheered when Ron Paul said let the uninsured die.

    Conservatism is a serious political philosophy. It is not nihilism. Conservatives are interested in making government work better. You are not a conservative.
    Ron Paul didn't say that, but who cares about the fact. Right?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ron Paul didn't say that, but who cares about the fact. Right?
    But it makes for great headlines and liberal talking points. when proven wrong they will just be off on some other tangent equally wrong. Ron Paul is a doctor and was talking about people accepting personal responsibility and getting help from other people when needed. It would be a violation of his oath to make such a statement and he didn't. Too many liberals want to read into his statement that which wasn't there. As for the T.E.A. Party members cheering, they were cheering his statement on personal responsibilities.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    But it makes for great headlines and liberal talking points. when proven wrong they will just be off on some other tangent equally wrong. Ron Paul is a doctor and was talking about people accepting personal responsibility and getting help from other people when needed. It would be a violation of his oath to make such a statement and he didn't. Too many liberals want to read into his statement that which wasn't there. As for the T.E.A. Party members cheering, they were cheering his statement on personal responsibilities.
    Gotta hand it to the Libbos; they're propaganda experts.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ron Paul didn't say that, but who cares about the fact. Right?
    Tea Party Crowd Cheers Letting Uninsured Die - YouTube

    Unless you want to argue that Ron Paul didn't say let the uninsured die, it's just not our responsibility to give them the help they need to live.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    I believe I heard two people say yes and noticed the YouTube video cut off quickly generating I guess the propaganda liberals wanted. Suggest you read the transcript and of the actual encounter. Please explain to me what is it about liberalism that creates such strong need to distort for political gain? Do you have a vested interest in liberalism? What is it about personal responsibility and neighbor helping neighbor that you don't understand? Do you think that individual without healthcare doesn't get treatment funded BY THE STATES? I cannot believe how brainwashed you and others are

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Sure do, do you? You think the Congress spends the money for the Dept. of Defense and other govt. agencies? When I see people like you posting this crap I really don't know whether to cry or laugh.
    YES! Holy crap. Congress sets the taxes and how much each part of government is allowed to spend.

    Riddle me this: If the President spends the money, then why is the government shut down until congress passes a CR?

    Seriously... Take a civics class.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

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    Wrong, been a conservative for a lot longer than you have and I will take the Conservative philosophy any day over the failures of liberalism where the answer is always throw someone else's money at the problem. You really need to get away from the leftwing sites, no conservative and no Republican wants the uninsured to die, what they do want however is for people to accept personal responsibility for their own healthcare. I suggest you focus on liberal greed instead of personal greed as that would make you more credible.
    Okay.. What do YOU want to do about an uninsured person with curable cancer? Because to me, your position is that you don't want them to die, but it's really not your problem.

    Edit: also what on earth is "liberal greed" as opposed to "personal greed". Greed IS a personal thing. I can't greedily want what's best for my neighbor.
    Talk about brainwashing: that's straight out of 1984 - defining words to mean their opposite.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Another interesting poll that may knock the socks off both party members was released by AP. It simply stated that 60% of Americans want to kick everyone out of Washington DC. Yes that includes the Republican House, the Democratic Senate and the President. How much of this is hot air and just frustration with the needless standoff? I really do not know, but for congress, it has always been said that the people love their own congressman and hate the other 434. But now according to AP anyhow, the people are now even willing to throw their own congressman/senator out the window.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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