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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ..... Just as Obama won by big numbers from his constituency.

    But, once again, Con leads from the heart, posting his hot rhetoric assuming he know the truth yet he can not support it. How is the house doing what people told them to do, given that forcing a government shutdown over ObamaCare was a loser by more than 2 to 1

    Poll: Don't Tie Shutdown to Obamacare Funding - NationalJournal.com
    If you want to believe that Congressional Poll numbers are relevant in Congressional races then nothing is going to change your mind, just like nothing is going to change your mind regarding the Govt. shutdown and who did it. No matter how many times you make your biased claims that doesn't make it true. It wasn't the House that shutdown the govt. it was the Senate and the last I checked the Senate is Democrat controlled.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Dems kept the Senate and the White house. The ACA was upheld by the Supreme Court. And if you want to dig deeper, the Dems received more votes during the House election than Repubs by 2 million votes. In what way is voting to interfere with the ACA the will of the people? Which people? Certainly not the majority of American citizens and is counterfactual to the law as declared by the Supreme Court. So which people Conservative?
    I know this is hard for you to understand but the Republican House is doing exactly what the people sent them to D.C. to do. You don't like it, tough. Love the liberal logic now that because the Democrats got more votes than the Repubiicans somehow that negates the will of the people who voted in those District election. Somehow in your world House elections don't matter now because the big liberal cities didn't carry those districts.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That Obama is way better than Bush, what else?
    Yep, the results sure show that, wonder exactly when it was that Bush had 16 million unemployed/discouraged workers, 6.4 trillion added to the debt and had any average result worse than Obama, GDP No, Unemployment No, Debt no. You are nothing more than a partisan hack who ignores data to buy the media spin.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    They told them to put the American and world economy at risk?
    Obama and Democrats are putting our economy at risk but that doesn't matter. You see the 2011 debt ceiling supposedly addressed the debt and of course the 16.7 trillion dollar debt we have today vs. the 14.7 then really isn't an increase because Obama said raising the debt ceiling doesn't increase the debt. Yes, liberals love to pile on with their ignorance. There is more than enough money to prevent a credit default.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your opinion noted just as your total ignorance of the facts. Trillion dollar deficits 2010-2011-2012 are Bush's fault too, right? I really suggest taking a leadership course because you have no idea what leadership is.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
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    Love your part of the country. You also might want to ask your liberal friends that when the debt ceiling debate occurred in 2011 the debt was 14.7. Obama claimed that the raising of the debt ceiling would not cause more debt Today the debt is 16.7 trillion dollars. Guess that isn't an increase in the debt? Doesn't it raise the question to those who believe the rhetoric of this President as to why future obligations increased the spending from 2011 to 2013 and was approved by the President and the Congress?

    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...says-obama.htm
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    By poor leadership, I trust you are referring to John Boehner, who clearly makes Obama look like the best of Churchill and Lombardi rolled into one. I don't know about you, but I have never seen such a spineless buffoon as Boehner
    Let's see, in 2011 we had a debt ceiling debate to increase the debt ceiling to 16.7 trillion dollars and "your" President said that raising the debt ceiling wouldn't increase the debt yet you question Boehner's leadership skills? Do you get all your information from the DNC, Jon Stewart, or how about off the bathroom walls?

    Obama Claims Raising Debt Ceiling Doesn't Increase Debt

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Love your part of the country. You also might want to ask your liberal friends that when the debt ceiling debate occurred in 2011 the debt was 14.7. Obama claimed that the raising of the debt ceiling would not cause more debt Today the debt is 16.7 trillion dollars. Guess that isn't an increase in the debt? Doesn't it raise the question to those who believe the rhetoric of this President as to why future obligations increased the spending from 2011 to 2013 and was approved by the President and the Congress?

    Obama Claims Raising Debt Ceiling Doesn't Increase Debt
    Obama says that carrying an umbrella won't make it rain. Then it rains. The first thing you would do is find someone carrying an umbrella, and then say HA! Obama's wrong.

    Seriously, you should really take a step back and think about things for yourself. Any time you hear something flip the partisanship and ask yourself, do I feel differently about that now?

    You're obviously a fair bit more intelligent than you come across. Don't let people who make millions of dollars at your expense do your thinking for you.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I know this is hard for you to understand but the Republican House is doing exactly what the people sent them to D.C. to do. You don't like it, tough. Love the liberal logic now that because the Democrats got more votes than the Repubiicans somehow that negates the will of the people who voted in those District election. Somehow in your world House elections don't matter now because the big liberal cities didn't carry those districts.
    The Republican House is Republican because of gerrymandering. It has nothing to do with the will of the people. 2012 was a +2pt year for Democrats in the house and yet Republicans held the house. This was the only 4th time in 100 years that had happened.

    Because of the way the districts are drawn up, Democrats now need a +10pt year to have a 50/50 shot at taking back the house. To put that in perspective, the 1994 wave was a +7pt Republican victory.

    In short, it is essentially impossible for the Democrats to control the house until 2022.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Obama says that carrying an umbrella won't make it rain. Then it rains. The first thing you would do is find someone carrying an umbrella, and then say HA! Obama's wrong.

    Seriously, you should really take a step back and think about things for yourself. Any time you hear something flip the partisanship and ask yourself, do I feel differently about that now?

    You're obviously a fair bit more intelligent than you come across. Don't let people who make millions of dollars at your expense do your thinking for you.
    This President does nothing but talk which apparently is good enough for people like the Obamabot supporters. I understand leadership more than most here and those that do understand exactly where I am coming from. Obama controls what Harry Reid pushes in the Senate and the reality is that Obama has yet to submit a budget with any spending cuts nor proposed any policies that would put the 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work FULL time paying "their fair share" in FIT. Obama is not only carrying the umbrella but has also poked holes in it. Last debt ceiling debate was supposed to cut spending and here we are two years later with 2 more trillion in debt. That wasn't supposed to happen but somehow this time things are supposed to be different?

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