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Thread: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Apparently, you dont realize it... because you keep spitting out this 220 billion figure but never describe the other side.

    Also, what happens when tax revenues nosedive when the economy tanks when we default? Generally, I like my government to be run by individuals who can think a bit longer term than what happens the next few weeks.
    You really have been brainwashed, we have a private sector economy but it is time that we had some tough love. Maybe default is the answer to the spending problem. Only liberals like you believe we need a 3.77 trillion dollar federal govt. all because you cannot get your state to do what you want them to do. We don't have the money and you cannot get enough money out of those "evil" rich people to fund the liberal spending appetite.

    There is no default of you pay the debts you own. the other is discretionary spending that has to be paired down. You spend the 220 billion a month on the entitlement and mandatory spending programs and that prevents default.

    We have had almost 5 years of the community agitator from Chicago and there is no evidence that he can think long term. He is doing nothing but building a dependent class thus creating permanent power for liberals. This country cannot support Obamanomics and if it takes default to get him out of office so be it. Finally some fiscal responsibility back in the WH. Don't get me wrong, Republicans have only been a little better but still spent too much and grew govt. too much but not to the level it is today.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Because you need to pay the bills that you already racked up.
    How about not racking up bills and cutting spending instead. Maybe a budget would help.

    Obama has been borrowing over $1,000,000,000,000 a year every year since he has been president. What do you have to show for it?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I understand it much better than you, I reckon.

    What bills? Well, what about the debt payments? When you issue bonds with repayment schedules, those are bills that need to be paid, often for the next decade or more. Scheduled bills.

    What about payments to hospitals and doctors for Medicare and Medicaid? Services have been rendered, bills will be due. Not to mention the fact that you are basically contractually obligated to cover those recipients in the future, unless you change the laws.

    Social Security checks need to be issued. Monthly. Those are debt obligations. Those arent optional payments via law.

    Defense contractors need their checks. People are under contract with the government - companies, organizations, etc. They need to be paid via law and contracts.

    I could go on and on. But I bet its probably senseless, because you dont seem to have the slightest grasp on what the government does.
    All these bills and yet you feel the country can afford Obamacare???

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    True that Grant.

    Al Gore's daddy included.

    I never get tired of being called a racist by a member of the party that Fillibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
    Those low info's look for racism everywhere except where it's most obvious. Their own Dem party.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Anyone that understands that having a 17 trillion dollar debt on a 16 trillion dollar economy!!! Why aren't you outraged over that debt? Aren't you rational?
    We have half the debt to GDP of Japan, they are not bankrupt. What makes you think you know how much debt is too much?

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That must be why they sent a budget to the Senate fully funding all those entitlements. Dude, have you been under a rock?
    LOL that was weeks ago. Have you been under a rock?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You really have been brainwashed, we have a private sector economy but it is time that we had some tough love. Maybe default is the answer to the spending problem. Only liberals like you believe we need a 3.77 trillion dollar federal govt. all because you cannot get your state to do what you want them to do. We don't have the money and you cannot get enough money out of those "evil" rich people to fund the liberal spending appetite.

    There is no default of you pay the debts you own. the other is discretionary spending that has to be paired down. You spend the 220 billion a month on the entitlement and mandatory spending programs and that prevents default.

    We have had almost 5 years of the community agitator from Chicago and there is no evidence that he can think long term. He is doing nothing but building a dependent class thus creating permanent power for liberals. This country cannot support Obamanomics and if it takes default to get him out of office so be it. Finally some fiscal responsibility back in the WH. Don't get me wrong, Republicans have only been a little better but still spent too much and grew govt. too much but not to the level it is today.
    Is that the biggest cliche ever or what!

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL that was weeks ago. Have you been under a rock?
    I see. Just make it up as you go along, then.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    We have half the debt to GDP of Japan, they are not bankrupt. What makes you think you know how much debt is too much?
    Our Debt is over 100% of our GDP which is mostly private sector generated and you don't have a problem with that? You continue to post information that shows how little you understand about the economy and the Obama results. Apparently the role of the Federal Govt in your world is to spend money we have to print or borrow on programs that we don't need to generate results that you don't understand. Too much debt is spending more than you don' generate revenue to pay for.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    We have half the debt to GDP of Japan, they are not bankrupt. What makes you think you know how much debt is too much?
    It's simple. Look who's in office. If it's a Republican, then deficits don't matter. If it's a Democrat, then obviously we have a socialists communist acorn government.

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