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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Your team would be busy trying to dig out of a hole with a shovel.
    Believe as you wish. Your fictional thoughts most certainly will not work.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    The bill is now law. Holding the economy hostage over a law which is a done deal is not "negotiating", it's blackmail.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Anyone notice that Obama's numbers are sucking ass too? Legacy baby!!
    Shhhh! No one is supposed to bring that up!
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Nothing to be sorry about. I agree, very few people actually pay attention to what is going on in Washington. From a Republican perspective, passing these mini spending bills and sending them to the senate is their way of saying they are passing the shutdown blame onto those in the senate. This portion which means a lot if not everything to the GOP means nothing to the Democrats and as you say, those in-between the two parties aren't paying attention to this. The Democrats seem to want on all encompassing CR with funding for the ACA are are willing to take their chances that most Americans will know nothing about these mini funding bills.
    Those "mini-funding bills" have a name. They are appropriations bills and sending up one at a time is the way it was always done up until recently. Massive spending bills that no one reads are the road to tyranny which is why we are here. It is time to return to individual appropriations bills.

    Now is as good a time as any.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The compromise the right is proposing is to get rid of Obamacare, that isn't a compromise for the Dems. The GOP is wanting the Dems to cut their signature bill. It would be the equivalent of the Dems going, you need to cut the military by 75%. It just isn't going to happen that way and that's why it is looked at the right not compromising.
    The Democrats have cut, waived, and suspended many parts of Obamacare already....all on their own. All they're worried about now is being punked.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It shows the 35 straight months of job growth. It is not something a Republican President has done lately. They have been too busy presiding over recessions.
    So the economy is booming?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your passion for liberalism is admirable but borders on obsession, why?
    Right.. It's an obsession with liberalism...

    If the Republicans were to pass clean CR's and raise the debt limit at 986 Billion they would be seen to be acting "rationally". This would give the GOP leverage when the CR expires and congress is forced to pass a new budget. The STARTING point of negotiations would be 2% more spending than the Ryan budget, and every single Democrat would have supported spending at those levels.

    You'd start the negotiations only 19 Billion dollars away from the Ryan Budget!!! The shut down is going to cost us more than that. Somehow that's where we'd be starting budget negotiations even though the GOP had lost lost 5 of the last 6 national elections and the 2012 house by 2million votes. Somehow you've still gotten virtually everything you wanted, and yet you walk around like the Democrats are screwing you.

    In reality the Democrats and the President have gotten absolutely fleeced by the GOP. But you have a mental deficiency; I call it winaphobia. The prospect of accepting victory terrifies you.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Right.. It's an obsession with liberalism...

    If the Republicans were to pass clean CR's and raise the debt limit at 986 Billion they would be seen to be acting "rationally". This would give the GOP leverage when the CR expires and congress is forced to pass a new budget. The STARTING point of negotiations would be 2% more spending than the Ryan budget, and every single Democrat would have supported spending at those levels.

    You'd start the negotiations only 19 Billion dollars away from the Ryan Budget!!! The shut down is going to cost us more than that. Somehow that's where we'd be starting budget negotiations even though the GOP had lost lost 5 of the last 6 national elections and the 2012 house by 2million votes. Somehow you've still gotten virtually everything you wanted, and yet you walk around like the Democrats are screwing you.

    In reality the Democrats and the President have gotten absolutely fleeced by the GOP. But you have a mental deficiency; I call it winaphobia. The prospect of accepting victory terrifies you.

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    Acting rationally to whom? You believe the debt ceiling should be raised when the current debt exceeds our yearly GDP? Some and most rational people would say that is insane. I am not happy with the current GOP either and would like to kick most of them out as well. There is no excuse for a 17 trillion dollar debt

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Believe as you wish. Your fictional thoughts most certainly will not work.
    That's the point. You can't dig your way out of a hole. Perhaps you need an illustration.
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    Notice that I chose a cartoon that makes fun of both Hillary and Obama. I figured that you wouldn't understand it unless it somehow made fun of a Democrat.

    If you need further help understanding I suggest you dig a hole in your backyard that is deep enough that you can't crawl out of it. Then jump in and dig your way out. Make sure you get all of the dirt out of the hole. Do this until the debt ceiling has been raised. Then you can proudly call yourself a TRUE conservative.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Acting rationally to whom? You believe the debt ceiling should be raised when the current debt exceeds our yearly GDP? Some and most rational people would say that is insane. I am not happy with the current GOP either and would like to kick most of them out as well. There is no excuse for a 17 trillion dollar debt
    Name one rational person who thinks that raising the debt ceiling is "insane".

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