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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    That is such complete BS. The debt ceiling has always been used as a tool by the minority to embarrass the majority. Obama *COULD* have filibustered the debt ceiling increase. The GOP certainly didn't have enough to raise it. Look at every vote for the debt ceiling in the past, the majority always comes from the MAJORITY party, REGARDLESS of who the party is.
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    But now we have proudly ignorant tea partiers in the majority. They proudly admit their ignorance of global economics. But it doesn't matter; they learned enough raising a family. Of course!!! All you need to know about being a CFO you can learn by paying an electric bill.

    So now the minority party, for the first time in US history is willing to carry 95% of the debt ceiling vote. And even this would be enough if the bill was allowed to go to the floor.

    The current Republican party may be as big of a threat to the US as Russia was during the cold war.
    wheres Obama budget?... there is nothing you can say or do to cover for the Kenyan fraud..

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    That is such complete BS. The debt ceiling has always been used as a tool by the minority to embarrass the majority. Obama *COULD* have filibustered the debt ceiling increase. The GOP certainly didn't have enough to raise it. Look at every vote for the debt ceiling in the past, the majority always comes from the MAJORITY party, REGARDLESS of who the party is.
    Attachment 67154857

    But now we have proudly ignorant tea partiers in the majority. They proudly admit their ignorance of global economics. But it doesn't matter; they learned enough raising a family. Of course!!! All you need to know about being a CFO you can learn by paying an electric bill.

    So now the minority party, for the first time in US history is willing to carry 95% of the debt ceiling vote. And even this would be enough if the bill was allowed to go to the floor.

    The current Republican party may be as big of a threat to the US as Russia was during the cold war.
    Never in the history of this country has the debt exceeded the yearly GDP and your constant claims against the TEA party are nothing more than liberal talking points coming from the ignorant. Keep buying the rhetoric of the Democrat Party of today diverting you from the disastrous economic results they have generated blaming it on the "Peoples' House" and not their own economic policies. Name for me one time in history where the debt ceiling has been raised when the debt in this country exceeds our yearly GDP? You cannot do it yet you support it today, why?

    When I see comments like this,
    The current Republican party may be as big of a threat to the US as Russia was during the cold war
    I cry at the failure of our education system. "Your" Democratic party of today is doing its best to create that massive central govt, where one party controls the entire govt. and thus all the power and has done so by creating little robots like you who they can tell whatever they want and you ignore the results and buy the rhetoric. Rather sad

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Never in the history of this country has the debt exceeded the yearly GDP and your constant claims against the TEA party are nothing more than liberal talking points coming from the ignorant. Keep buying the rhetoric of the Democrat Party of today diverting you from the disastrous economic results they have generated blaming it on the "Peoples' House" and not their own economic policies. Name for me one time in history where the debt ceiling has been raised when the debt in this country exceeds our yearly GDP? You cannot do it yet you support it today, why?


    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When I see comments like this, I cry at the failure of our education system. "Your" Democratic party of today is doing its best to create that massive central govt, where one party controls the entire govt. and thus all the power and has done so by creating little robots like you who they can tell whatever they want and you ignore the results and buy the rhetoric. Rather sad
    I couldn't have said it better myself.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post


    I couldn't have said it better myself.
    Yep, cannot read a chart can you but I should have said modern history, but as usual you have no understand as to what makes up the debt and focus on public debt which is only one part of the debt we pay. The public education system has failed you. Total debt today is almost 17 trillion dollars and that is made up of public debt and intergovernment holdings and the GOP is 16 plus trillion. That exceeds our annual GDP

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post


    I couldn't have said it better myself.
    Please tell me what investment you have in the Obama Administration that you would continue to have such passion for the failures he has generated? Why is it that economic results don't matter to you when Obama is in the WH and that is all we heard from Obama supporters during the last year of the Bush term?

    Do you understand that Intergovt. holdings are SS and Medicare shortfalls? Do you understand that LBJ put SS on budget thus making it as part of showing a lower public debt than total debt so that people like you touted charts like this one you just posted? Do you realize that when you take money from a long term liability and put it on budget that you lower the public debt but increase the long term debt? Although you make the public debt look better you have done nothing to lower the total debt and in fact have made it worse to the tune of 17 trillion dollars today?

    Do you apologize for making any mistakes at all? I do accept apologizes but seldom get them from liberals who refuse to admit they are wrong

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post


    I couldn't have said it better myself.
    Interesting, both times during a democrat reformer presidential term and democrat lead senate.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Please tell me what investment you have in the Obama Administration that you would continue to have such passion for the failures he has generated? Why is it that economic results don't matter to you when Obama is in the WH and that is all we heard from Obama supporters during the last year of the Bush term?

    Do you understand that Intergovt. holdings are SS and Medicare shortfalls? Do you understand that LBJ put SS on budget thus making it as part of showing a lower public debt than total debt so that people like you touted charts like this one you just posted? Do you realize that when you take money from a long term liability and put it on budget that you lower the public debt but increase the long term debt? Although you make the public debt look better you have done nothing to lower the total debt and in fact have made it worse to the tune of 17 trillion dollars today?

    Do you apologize for making any mistakes at all? I do accept apologizes but seldom get them from liberals who refuse to admit they are wrong

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post


    I couldn't have said it better myself.
    Thats why you cant say it better... nor do you have the ability to read a chart... Obama must be so proud of his minions of the lost

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Please tell me what investment you have in the Obama Administration that you would continue to have such passion for the failures he has generated? Why is it that economic results don't matter to you when Obama is in the WH and that is all we heard from Obama supporters during the last year of the Bush term?

    Do you understand that Intergovt. holdings are SS and Medicare shortfalls? Do you understand that LBJ put SS on budget thus making it as part of showing a lower public debt than total debt so that people like you touted charts like this one you just posted? Do you realize that when you take money from a long term liability and put it on budget that you lower the public debt but increase the long term debt? Although you make the public debt look better you have done nothing to lower the total debt and in fact have made it worse to the tune of 17 trillion dollars today?

    Do you apologize for making any mistakes at all? I do accept apologizes but seldom get them from liberals who refuse to admit they are wrong
    So far:
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    Never in the history of this country has the debt exceeded the yearly GDP
    False: 1945:
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Name for me one time in history where the debt ceiling has been raised when the debt in this country exceeds our yearly GDP?
    False 1944:

    Which mistakes have I made?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    Thats why you cant say it better... nor do you have the ability to read a chart... Obama must be so proud of his minions of the lost
    You're right. I can't read charts using the conservative version of rose colored glasses. But I'm pretty sure it goes like this.

    Does this data involve Republican leadership? If so it must be good.
    Does this data involve Democratic leadership? If so it must be bad.

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