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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Well the conservatives of the time liked the status quo, it was the liberals that were for revolution.
    I grew up a JFK Democrat, you think the party today is like the Party of JFK? What did JFK say about taxes and the private sector?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Many of them would also be turning over in their graves at the thought of a black man in the white house and women working... so maybe we shouldn't put too much stock into what they thought.
    Probably especially this black man in the WH who never held a real job in his life and is nothing more than a street thug who throws a tantrum when he doesn't get what he wants. You see, our Forefathers wanted the power the closest to the people which is the House and didn't believe in the massive central govt that Obama is promoting and trying to create. You believe it is about race where I believe it is about the incompetence of Obama

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I grew up a JFK Democrat, you think the party today is like the Party of JFK? What did JFK say about taxes and the private sector?
    I don't believe the Democratic party wants the top marginal rate to be 70% JFK was a liberal and he would be for all the social programs we have today.


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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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    But you don't have a problem with foreigners murdering Americans and babies here on our soil? Have you bothered to check out the Radical Islam mission statement? You are an infidel so do you think you can change the mind of a radical?
    Actually I am referencing abortion. It disturbs me that I'm paying for someone to execute their child.

    Regarding the Middle East - I see that as 'reaping what we sowed' in that region.

    What to do about it? I'm not sure. But I want nothing to do with killing people.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I don't believe the Democratic party wants the top marginal rate to be 70% JFK was a liberal and he would be for all the social programs we have today.
    Your opinion noted, JFK understood the private sector and that it is the private sector that drives our economy. It is also the private sector that generates the funds for the social programs you value. Obama doesn't understand that nor do most liberals.

    John F. Kennedy on taxes

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    Actually I am referencing abortion. It disturbs me that I'm paying for someone to execute their child.

    Regarding the Middle East - I see that as 'reaping what we sowed' in that region.

    What to do about it? I'm not sure. But I want nothing to do with killing people.
    Great attitude, now sell that to those who want you to convert to Islam or die

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Spinners on MSNBC caught the part of a short-term offer by the POTUS on the debt limit, like 8 weeks.
    But, since Obama said it out loud, you know what that means with Repubs.
    And, the Dem caucus isn't happy with this idea.
    Ah, just freeze spending, all spending at the 3.7 trillion level and raise the debt ceiling a trillion, with a provision that as long as not a single penny is spent above that 3.7 trillion, if the debt ceiling need raising in the future it will automatically rise another trillion as long as spending never exceeds 3.7 trillion. I don't care how long it takes, keep the freeze, spending 3.7 trillion until the budget is balanced, until all expenditures, spending is less than all revenue/income/money coming in. Keep the freeze in place until there is a 200 billion surplus which must be maintained every year hence and start paying down the debt.

    Interest rate can't stay this low. As it is we are paying 420 billion in interest alone and that is at roughly 2%. what happens if interest rates rise to there normal level, you know how much the interest payment would be on 17 trillion at the historical average rate of 6%. ONE TRILLION dollars a year.

    We are living in a fools paradise if we or anyone, anybody thinks interest rates will remain between 1 and 2 percent.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your opinion noted, JFK understood the private sector and that it is the private sector that drives our economy. It is also the private sector that generates the funds for the social programs you value. Obama doesn't understand that nor do most liberals.

    John F. Kennedy on taxes
    So you favor the Federal Income Tax rates that existed after the JFK/LBJ tax cuts?


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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So you favor the Federal Income Tax rates that existed after the JFK/LBJ tax cuts?
    If the same deductions are available, and social programs are rolled back to what existed at the time, sure...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So you favor the Federal Income Tax rates that existed after the JFK/LBJ tax cuts?
    What I favor is the JFK budget in 2013 dollars, 250 billion dollars=1.8 trillion budget, deal??

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