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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity
    I disagree. We will have plenty of money as more and more mfg returns to our shores. And, those jobs that come with it will all be high paying automation related jobs. It'll be another tech boom.
    I've worked automation since '94. Only the technicians get good pay, of the continuing jobs. The operators are a dime a dozen. Until there is enough competition where the supply and demand formulation favors good employees, operators in automation get paid less than skills required on an assembly line. I wouldn't count too much on this alone, if I were you, unless we return several types of automation jobs to our shores. Techs get paid well, and real good if they are good, but there are very few good techs.


    Quote Originally Posted by calamity
    Currently the problem is uninsured people going to emergency rooms instead of low-cost clinics. Obamacare aims to correct that. Is it perfect? Hell no. Is it better than nothing? Of course.
    It solves one problem and creates several more. It's a flat out stupid program, that ends up costing us more.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    So 70% disapprove of republican actions and 61% disapprove of democrat actions? That sounds like a wash to me.
    It is very close to it. CNN yesterday afternoon released a poll that concerned just independent voters. Of course we all know Republicans will blame Democrats and Democrats will blame Republicans, that isn't rocket science. But I always like to know how those who do not affiliate or identify with either party feel. Gallup puts this number at 46% in a September poll. These were the numbers of independents and independents only on whom they blame.

    60% of indies blamed the Republican Congressional Party
    59% blamed the Democratic Congress party
    58% blamed President Obama.

    just one last thing on the president, back in November of 2012, 51% of independents approved of the job he was doing and President Obama won re-election with the help of indies. Today according to Gallup, only 36% of independents approve of the President.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So you have the same lack of understanding as the T's in the House. You need to take some courses on Govt. A majority in one House of Congress is in no way a mandate.
    Tell that to Harry Reid who is sitting on dozens of bills already passed by the House. It also does appear that you lack a basic history of the Tea Party and buy what the left tells you. It really is sad to see so many just like you, ignorant of history, civics, and economics

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    It is very close to it. CNN yesterday afternoon released a poll that concerned just independent voters. Of course we all know Republicans will blame Democrats and Democrats will blame Republicans, that isn't rocket science. But I always like to know how those who do not affiliate or identify with either party feel. Gallup puts this number at 46% in a September poll. These were the numbers of independents and independents only on whom they blame.

    60% of indies blamed the Republican Congressional Party
    59% blamed the Democratic Congress party
    58% blamed President Obama.

    just one last thing on the president, back in November of 2012, 51% of independents approved of the job he was doing and President Obama won re-election with the help of indies. Today according to Gallup, only 36% of independents approve of the President.
    Interesting poll results! Do you think DC might finally pay attention to the people they represent? We've certainly been vocal enough about teling them all to "stop acting like children, and do your job!"

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    It is very close to it. CNN yesterday afternoon released a poll that concerned just independent voters. Of course we all know Republicans will blame Democrats and Democrats will blame Republicans, that isn't rocket science. But I always like to know how those who do not affiliate or identify with either party feel. Gallup puts this number at 46% in a September poll. These were the numbers of independents and independents only on whom they blame.

    60% of indies blamed the Republican Congressional Party
    59% blamed the Democratic Congress party
    58% blamed President Obama.

    just one last thing on the president, back in November of 2012, 51% of independents approved of the job he was doing and President Obama won re-election with the help of indies. Today according to Gallup, only 36% of independents approve of the President.
    Thanks to good old false equivalency.

    Here's how the negotiation went. The Democrats wanted a budget with $1018 Billion, the Republicans wanted a budget with $980 Billion. The Democrats said, fine.. make it clean and we'll go 980 Billion. The Republicans said. Oh, thanks for giving us exactly what we want. But now we also want you to cancel the ACA or else we'll shut down the government and crash the economy.

    The House Republican Tea party wing is clearly the cause of this. And it's a terrible precedent. What happens when we have a GOP senate and a GOP presidency? Do we want Nancy Pelosi to be able to demand medicare for everyone and 90% tax cuts on the rich or else she'll crash the economy?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Those would be CR's something you don't understand

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I disagree. We will have plenty of money as more and more mfg returns to our shores. And, those jobs that come with it will all be high paying automation related jobs. It'll be another tech boom.

    Currently the problem is uninsured people going to emergency rooms instead of low-cost clinics. Obamacare aims to correct that. Is it perfect? Hell no. Is it better than nothing? Of course.
    Such passion for Obamanomics and the question is why? Why won't liberals answer the question? Why won't liberals discuss the Obama results? Why is it that liberals want one big pot, one big central govt to distribute money as those bureaucrats see fit? The problem as I see it is now totally naÔve people like you are and how poorly informed you are when it comes to understanding expenses of the govt. No matter how many times I post the data, you ignore it thus making it a waste of time. State taxpayers not Federal Taxpayers fund the uninsured thus why do we need Obamaare? Keep buying the liberal rhetoric for that feel good rhetoric sure makes people look ignorant when the results are shown.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post


    Go back to Fox news. I'm sure they'll continue telling you what you want to hear.
    Says the person that BLS.gov, BEA.gov. and the U.S. Treasury constantly shows that you think with your heart and not your brain. Interesting how actual data proves you wrong but you still buy the rhetoric. Try that on your current job and see how long you last

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    that has been my opinion for a very long time. If the two major parties can't govern which it has looked like for a very long time they Can't. It is time to replace them. Replace them with people who put more value on being Americans and looking out for the country than being republicans and democrats and only looking out for their political party.
    The solution is term limits but that is never going to happen as it will take a Constitutional Amendment to do that and liberals love having the control in major states like California, NY, Illinois.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The solution is term limits but that is never going to happen as it will take a Constitutional Amendment to do that and liberals love having the control in major states like California, NY, Illinois.
    lol. But yet it was the GOP who benefited the most with the Gerrymandered result.

    PolitiFact | Steny Hoyer: House Democrats won majority of 2012 popular vote
    House Democrats out-earned their Republican counterparts by 1.17 million votes. Read another way, Democrats won 50.59 percent of the two-party vote. Still, they won just 46.21 percent of seats, leaving the Republicans with 234 seats and Democrats with 201.

    It was the second time in 70 years that a party won the majority of the vote but didnít win a majority of the House seats, according to the analysis.

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