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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That was before the real estate bubbled he helped to inflate popped in 2008 and wiped out all the jobs he "created". Even when you leave that out he had the worst job creation record of any President modern history .
    Not exactly an unbiased site that "Business Insider", now is it?

    I'd really have to check out a few reputable sources before agreeing. After all, when I see Krugman appear in the first sentence, well all credibility then goes out the window. Then, they have link to a post encouraging Obama to raise the debt ceiling on his own. Really, they want him to commit an impeachable offense? Just blatantly violate the Constitution?

    I didn't go any further into that mess, but now I have a better idea of where all these horribly wrong posts come from on the left here. I mean, you people relly need to stop swallowing everything they feed you.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Not exactly an unbiased site that "Business Insider", now is it?

    I'd really have to check out a few reputable sources before agreeing. After all, when I see Krugman appear in the first sentence, well all credibility then goes out the window. Then, they have link to a post encouraging Obama to raise the debt ceiling on his own. Really, they want him to commit an impeachable offense? Just blatantly violate the Constitution?

    I didn't go any further into that mess, but now I have a better idea of where all these horribly wrong posts come from on the left here. I mean, you people relly need to stop swallowing everything they feed you.
    Krugman isn't credible? Really? He's only a Nobel prize in economics winner, one of the top twenty highest rated economists among all kinds of other things. If you follow what he says over the years you'd find he's almost always right about everything. The people and views he goes after as being wrong so very often are. Yet he sucks? Ok then, who would you say is credible?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Not exactly an unbiased site that "Business Insider", now is it?

    I'd really have to check out a few reputable sources before agreeing. After all, when I see Krugman appear in the first sentence, well all credibility then goes out the window. Then, they have link to a post encouraging Obama to raise the debt ceiling on his own. Really, they want him to commit an impeachable offense? Just blatantly violate the Constitution?

    I didn't go any further into that mess, but now I have a better idea of where all these horribly wrong posts come from on the left here. I mean, you people relly need to stop swallowing everything they feed you.
    Business insider is right leaning but they care about the economy. That's what's missing among the T's. The don't give a hoot about anything but doing their masters bidding. And those masters want another recession.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Krugman isn't credible? Really? He's only a Nobel prize in economics winner, one of the top twenty highest rated economists among all kinds of other things. If you follow what he says over the years you'd find he's almost always right about everything. The people and views he goes after as being wrong so very often are. Yet he sucks? Ok then, who would you say is credible?
    The problem with Krugman is that he disagrees with the Right and the facts always prove him right. It burns them up. He nailed the conservative driven "austerity" caused double dip recession in Europe to a Tee. The right wings "Confidence fairy" was certainly a no show and by comparison it made Obama's handling of our economy appear that much better. They REALLY hated that.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Should we go back to the Bush 43 results?
    The entire 8 year average vs the 5 year average of Obama? You bet. What I find interesting is how people like you continue to divert Bush. Anytime a thread is posted that has Obama's name in it, the Obamabots have to bring up Bush all diverting from that Obama record. Too bad you don't have the ability to research both records.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since your direction for the Universe didn't happen Pero, we have a showdown at the DC corral.
    I just wish I knew all that gun term stuff, I could expand.
    Let Linc enter and help.
    Act like POTUS Christie and get all sides in and not let them out until they agree.
    Bring in comfortable everything.
    Extra clothes and make sure showers are close.

    UNDER the table, DEMS are already giving.
    Our tithing is always more than theirs/per se.
    KEYSTONE, please Mr. president
    Medical Equipmenmt Tax repeal for a year, Please.
    acceptance of 986 Billion not 1.2 TRillion as Obama asked
    Now Repubs are moving it down to 966
    It is the sequester/Paul Ryan budget

    Chained CPI, and we don't know the ages--hitting the elderly
    I'll get the Sen. Coburn plan to you.
    Okay........
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Good grief. Wrong on both. Way wrong. You lefties seem to always see race first.
    Actually both are much more correct than you dare to admit.
    The Irony of Obamacare: Republicans Thought of It First | Wall St. Cheat Sheet

    ďAn irony of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) is that one of its key provisions, the individual insurance mandate, has conservative origins. In Congress, the requirement that individuals to purchase health insurance first emerged in Republican health care reform bills introduced in 1993 as alternatives to the Clinton plan.
    The real story of the shutdown: 50 years of GOP race-baiting - Salon.com
    On the day the Affordable Care Act takes effect, the U.S. government is shut down, and it may be permanently broken. Youíll read lots of explanations for the dysfunction, but the simple truth is this: Itís the culmination of 50 years of evolving yet consistent Republican strategy to depict government as the enemy, an oppressor that works primarily as the protector of and provider for African-Americans, to the detriment of everyone else. The fact that everything came apart under our first African-American president wasnít an accident, it was probably inevitable.

    Yeah, I know--facts have a liberal bias.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Actually both are much more correct than you dare to admit.
    The Irony of Obamacare: Republicans Thought of It First | Wall St. Cheat Sheet
    Yeah, I know--facts have a liberal bias.
    PolitiFact | Facebook post says Republicans embraced individual mandate in 1993
    Last edited by Samhain; 10-08-13 at 09:55 AM.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, that is your opinion. There are no debt obligations for fiscal year 2014 yet so now is the time to stop spending. 2013 is in the books.
    Good. Then Congress should agree to pay all existing debt, no strings attached, and we should have a fresh fight over a new budget.

    I think we should cut the Defense spending by 50%. No $50B to NSA; No 50B to Statel; No $50B to Homeland Security--cut all those to $25 or less. Next, chop that huge $667B Military Budget down to 300--tops. Lastly, look closely at what we give Vets. Maybe we should cut what we give them by 50% too...that is if we are to cut Foodstamps and other gvt assistance programs.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think we are saying the same thing very differently, but are on the same sheet of music. I agree. The ACA law doesn't effect me, I am an old fart and a military retiree to boot.
    It might effect me, it might not. I'm on an employer paid plan. It may change or it may not. I don't much care either way.

    ACA has a few things I like. I like that insurance companies must take on those with existing conditions. And, I understand that to do that the companies have to have a pool of healthy contributors. So the mandate is fine with me--I always believed it should be a law that you must carry insurance. However, I don't like how it's all being set up and the thing looks like a nightmare to manage.

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