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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    This time, we/I/they have the internet to keep hope alive as well as what happened in 2010 when your base doesn't vote.
    We'll see. Right now I don't expect much movement one way or the other. I think if blame stays relative even, that won't change.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    The "one year delay" rider.
    Hmm, so much for the mainstream media to give you any details. I think if the one year delay is good enough for corporations, it ought to be the same for the individual. Now don't go get me thinking, I might say something like who is in bed with corporations over the people now.

    It's good not being able to think.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
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    Read the article cited in my post to which you responded. You need to.

    A lot of those debt obligations go to folks like you, entitlement payments for SS and Medicare. Add to that pay to military and other federal employees, base operations, ongoing defense projects and other bills due for daily operations. You'll see how fast the money adds up, if you bother reading.
    SS and Medicare are about a trillion dollars a year or 86 billion a month
    VA is 124 billion a year or 10 billion a month
    Debt service is 250 billion a year or 21 billion a month
    Defense is 700 billion a year or about 60 billion a month

    Total 177 billion and we collect about 2.6 trillion a year or 220 billion a month. No default necessary.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    SS and Medicare are about a trillion dollars a year or 86 billion a month
    VA is 124 billion a year or 10 billion a month
    Debt service is 250 billion a year or 21 billion a month
    Defense is 700 billion a year or about 60 billion a month

    Total 177 billion and we collect about 2.6 trillion a year or 220 billion a month. No default necessary.
    Hmm, what programs are missing here?
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    SS and Medicare are about a trillion dollars a year or 86 billion a month
    VA is 124 billion a year or 10 billion a month
    Debt service is 250 billion a year or 21 billion a month
    Defense is 700 billion a year or about 60 billion a month

    Total 177 billion and we collect about 2.6 trillion a year or 220 billion a month. No default necessary.
    We spend $3.8 and collect $2.9. Obviously your calculations are in error. You didn't read the article. Did ya?

    If Congress had issue with us spending a Trillion more dollars than we collect, they should have addressed that issue when the budget came up for a vote.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Hmm, what programs are missing here?
    Many state programs are duplicated by the Federal Govt. What I gave you are the mandatory expenses that the govt. has to pay to prevent default. Name for me one other item on that list below that the Govt HAS to pay or have as an expense item?.

    Here are the total line items in the budget

    Expenses

    Defense
    International Affairs
    Gen. Science, Space
    Energy
    Natural resources/env
    Agriculture
    Commerce/Housing Cr
    Transportation
    Community Dev
    Education/Train/Social
    Health
    Medicare
    Income Security
    Social Security
    Veterans Benefits
    Justice
    General Govt.
    Net Interest

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Hmm, what programs are missing here?
    SS and Medicare are $1.5t. So...not only does he ignore half the budget, he can't even get the numbers he does include correct.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    We spend $3.8 and collect $2.9. Obviously your calculations are in error. You didn't read the article. Did ya?

    If Congress had issue with us spending a Trillion more dollars than we collect, they should have addressed that issue when the budget came up for a vote.
    Don't need to read the article, you need to pay attention to the actual budget and if we collect 2.9 trillion a year that means we get more monthly cash to spend on other items. You need to stop listening to the left and think for a change. the entire argument is about default. Paying what I listed prevents default.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    SS and Medicare are $1.5t. So...not only does he ignore half the budget, he can't even get the numbers he does include correct.
    in 2012 Medicare was 472 billion and SS was 773 for a total of 1.2 trillion or 100 billion a month.

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