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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Excellent!! There's no sense doing something principled and important and not getting any credit for doing it.
    Seriously......the canuck......is arguing against a move towards UHC?

    Such hypocrisy.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The Dems are not going to compromise on OBamacare, their signature bill. You know this right? so why do the GOP continue to try and put that on the table? The GOP should be looking for OTHER cuts on the Dems side of the house and stick it to the Dems when Obamacare is implemented. Sorry but their so called "soft stance" is not a soft stance at all. When the GOP gain control on the house and senate, THEN is the time to attack OBamacare. Right now is not the time when you're holding people's jobs hostage.

    I don't think the GOP should be compromising at all on their side of the house with their stuff. They should be looking ata other cuts and if the Dems REALLY want to keep Obamacare, the Dems are going to have to compromise on something else. Either way, put it on the Dems then.

    I'm not saying "I" think the GOP is all to blame, however, I think the GOP will be blamed for trying to attack a bill they know the Dems won't give up. The GOP is wasting people's time and the people see this.

    IMO, Both sides are to blame for the situation we are in and BOTH sides are acting like idiots. However, my perception is not the reality that most will think and I do think blame will ultimately be placed on the GOP for the sutdown.
    The whole thing is Ridiculous I-hate-Obama crap.
    This is a Long ago Passed Law.
    The President has been RE-elected on this signature bill since.
    Nonetheless, he has repeatedly asked for suggestions on how to improve ACA.

    It's Unprecedented partisanship/nonsense to take the country hostage on this Bogus basis.
    The GOP deserves the Vast Majority of the blame.
    And Most of the GOP knows it, including Boehner.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Seriously......the canuck......is arguing against a move towards UHC?

    Such hypocrisy.
    He's hypocritical because his country does something different than he is suggesting this country should do.

    Do you know if he LIKES or AGREES with his countries health care system?

    If you were on a Canadian message board and if they were talking about relaxing their gun laws and you argued against it, would you be demonstrating "such hypocrisy" simply because the country you're in has laxer gun laws?

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    but having the potential for long term positive for the Republican Party in terms of possibly shifting some new blood in place of the "establishment" stalwarts.
    So in your opinion having MORE baggers as reps is a good thing for the GOP.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame

    Repubs will get the blame (tea party), they had an entire election to overthrow both houses, and to put in a new president. Sorry it didn't happen (I didn't vote for Obama or Romney for President, I left that option blank).

    Holding operations of government hostage is wrong, especially when this is a stunt so that they can try to look strong to their base when it is re-election time. I was a Republican, now I am independent, the party left me when the tea party came in and lowered the civil discourse to what we have now, just a bunch of sound bite and bumper sticker statements. The party has no room for moderates any more, so I am happily out of the party.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Seriously......the canuck......is arguing against a move towards UHC?

    Such hypocrisy.
    Obamacare isn't UHC, nor is it a move in that direction. Where do you see him arguing against UHC. Btw, there are Canadians who after having lived under UHC argue against it's adoption elsewhere.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    He's hypocritical because his country does something different than he is suggesting this country should do.

    Do you know if he LIKES or AGREES with his countries health care system?

    If you were on a Canadian message board and if they were talking about relaxing their gun laws and you argued against it, would you be demonstrating "such hypocrisy" simply because the country you're in has laxer gun laws?
    He participates in his health care system, he supports it and uses it regardless of his opinion.

    But, he has voiced support for his countries health care system.

    So yes, his sitting in Canada, using his socialized care system, while supporting the GOP in attempts to stop a progression to UHC....is hypocritical.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Most would blame Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    You do realize that the only thing these waivers exempt these corporations / businesses from is providing plans with an unlimited maximum annual benefit. They still have to follow every other aspect of the ACA.... the plans they provide simply are allowed to have maximum annual benefits. Thats it. They aren't exempted from the ACA.... they are exempted from providing plans with unlimited annual benefits.

    EDIT: Oh Yeah and only until 2014 after which no more waiver are allowed per the provisions in the ACA
    That isn't the only exemption...

    MLR exemption is quite a doozy...

    Further, the need for exemptions and waivers show it is an ill conceived law. Not only that but it is the epitome of crony capitalism as it transfers power to a bureaucracy where the organizations, firms, and individuals with the best lobbyists win. THIS IS THE VERY THING OBAMA CAMPAIGNED AGAINST!!!!

    Yet another example of his complete failure.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    He participates in his health care system, he supports it and uses it regardless of his opinion.

    But, he has voiced support for his countries health care system.

    So yes, his sitting in Canada, using his socialized care system, while supporting the GOP in attempts to stop a progression to UHC....is hypocritical.
    Once again you assume that Obamacare is UHC or a move towards UHC. Neither is true.

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