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Thread: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That would be fine AP if the fight was about spending and revenue. But it is all about the defunding rider. I don't have the figure in front of me, but I understand the Democrats agreed to lower the spending in CR from what the Democrats wanted, 1.2 trillion down to the Republican top line of 986 billion. Now that is quite a victory in itself. Of course that was on a riderless CR.
    The two are merging and have been intended to merge, therefore both sides need to discuss some tax reform, entitlement reform, and the elimination of baseline budgeting going forward...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Old English View Post
    In short how serious do you think the republicans are on fighting over this? How long, specifically, do you think they will keep this up? Because, well, Barack Obama, or senate democrats are definitely not budging...
    Who are you posting towards? The Reply With Quote Button at the bottom of each post is your friend...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Who are you posting towards? The Reply With Quote Button at the bottom of each post is your friend...
    Anyone who is serious about talking about politics...
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Who started this fight or who is right or wrong is no longer important to indies, it is appearances and perspectives they are now digesting and having one side saying they refuse to negotiate has brought the Democrats up to almost even in the polls for blame. Never mind it was the rider to defund the ACA that started all of this. That has IMO ceased to be important to them.
    As for Dems, the longer they are around the liquid manure spray coming from the House, the more they will smell like it.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The two are merging and have been intended to merge, therefore both sides need to discuss some tax reform, entitlement reform, and the elimination of baseline budgeting going forward...
    Sounds good to me. One bill covering both the debt ceiling and the CR. Time will tell. The government shutdown means nothing to me, I have been through 17 already and the 18th is no big deal. Same with you I bet. But I am interested in the fall out. I doubt any of this will have a effect on next years election.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    And here's another one: If the government defaults October 17th who will you blame?
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Do you think the government shutdown will end before October 17th?
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    As for Dems, the longer they are around the liquid manure spray coming from the House, the more they will smell like it.
    That is a unique way of putting it, but the polls are bearing that out.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    So, I would suggest the Senate avoid doing that. Why do you think the Senate leadership is willing to ignore the Constitutional mandate they swore to uphold?
    How about the House passes a bill that doesn't include repealing or delaying the ACA?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That would be fine AP if the fight was about spending and revenue. But it is all about the defunding rider. I don't have the figure in front of me, but I understand the Democrats agreed to lower the spending in CR from what the Democrats wanted, 1.2 trillion down to the Republican top line of 986 billion. Now that is quite a victory in itself. Of course that was on a riderless CR.
    The defunding rider was dropped before the government "shut down" with a delay in its place as a result of the Presidents already in place delays, waivers, etc...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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