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Thread: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Keeping the government open and functioning is part of the congresses job.
    The House did its job, passed a CR since the Obama budget got zero votes, the Senate rejected it and shut down the govt. Obama is a street thug who is used to getting his way. That is the Chicago way of negotiating.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Keeping the government open and functioning is part of the congresses job. The negotiations should not include any haggling over keeping the government open.
    Could you point out where this is in the Constitution?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The point is that the President to sit down an discuss ANYTHING unless he gets what he wants first, which sort of negates a negotiation...
    It's not really a matter of getting what he wants, it's a matter of getting what the American people want; now, not to say that the tea party aren't Americans--however, there is nothing more unpatriotic and unamerican than not standing with the president--but if we want to look at who the American people really are and what this country was really built on: THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, AND THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON MAJORITY RULE! Therefore, by default, you can't criticize the president for not negotiating, you can only criticize the tea party and their complaisant republican allies!

    P.S. This point is unbeatable, really...
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Keeping the government open and functioning is part of the congresses job.
    well government, meaning the legislative and judicial are open, it parts of the executive which are closed.

    money is still flowing into Washington it just that money has to be prioritized now to spend on things which are essential government functions.

    as to congress duties, they are listed here:

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    the general welfare is the 18 powers of congress

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Old English View Post
    It's not really a matter of getting what he wants, it's a matter of getting what the American people want; now, not to say that the tea party aren't Americans--however, there is nothing more unpatriotic and unamerican than not standing with the president--but if we want to look at who the American people really are and what this country was really built on: THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, AND THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON MAJORITY RULE! Therefore, by default, you can't criticize the president for not negotiating, you can only criticize the tea party and their complaisant republican allies!
    Really? Please cite the polls showing that the American People want the ACA?

    RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law

    Didn't realize that 40% was a majority

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Could you point out where this is in the Constitution?
    What point is the constitution if the government it created cannot enforce its basic duties?

    Or let me put it this way, what use is a engine of car if the car has no chassis to hold the engine in.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Good afternoon pg. I hope all is well on your end. Isn't Cleveland leading their NFL division?
    Yes they are, but you have to agree that it has been a most unusual year in every respect! And I'm a fan! Ohio State is 6-0, which also makes us happy, too! Everything is fine with me, and I hope the same is true for you and yours!

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Old English View Post
    It's not really a matter of getting what he wants, it's a matter of getting what the American people want; now, not to say that the tea party aren't Americans--however, there is nothing more unpatriotic and unamerican than not standing with the president--but if we want to look at who the American people really are and what this country was really built on: THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, AND THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON MAJORITY RULE! Therefore, by default, you can't criticize the president for not negotiating, you can only criticize the tea party and their complaisant republican allies!

    P.S. This point is unbeatable, really...
    Those who already have insurance through their employers maybe, but I doubt you'll find many without insurance wanting another bill to pay, especially once they find out what the deductibles and co-payments are...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well government, meaning the legislative and judicial are open,
    I think civil courts are closer

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    What point is the constitution if the government it created cannot enforce its basic duties?

    Or let me put it this way, what use is a engine of car if the car has no chassis to hold the engine in.
    The basic duties are many with controlling spending being one of those...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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