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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yep, you nailed it and those employers are going to hold a gun to your head and make you take that job. They aren't even going to tell you what you are going to make before taking that job. Those damn evil private sector employers who should invest their own money, take all that risk and then pay you whatever salary you think you deserve.
    Says the retired guy who is collecting entitlements. Sheesh.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You do understand that spending bills begin in the House, the House passed a CR and the Senate rejected it, the Senate therefore shutdown the govt. You don't seem to understand among other things how the budget process even works.
    You did not answer me.......and undercut your own argument. If he made a statement as a senator, that makes them even more inconsequential.

    Again....how does his statement justify the actions of the baggers in the house?
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    A lie and a total falsehood.

    Again, you show a complete lack of budget understanding.


    Um, since when did "projections"...become "results"?

    Still dancing!!

    Oh....you mean previous Bush budget numbers?

    Wow.

    Dude, you lost that discussion long ago.....when you disowned TARP. If you don't want the debt, don't claim the receipts.

    I was never "justifying" any numbers, or massaging them, or spinning them....that is your job which you do poorly. i'm just taking your arguments, posting the truth, and contrasting them.
    Carry on, Gimme, as usual a waste of time. none of what you posted proves anything I stated was wrong so what you do is post words that say nothing and prove nothing other than liberalism has someone like you supporting their failed economic policies.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Perhaps you should re-read my post. Lots of things have been unprecedented when it comes to the unilateral passing of Obamacare, but it hasn't been shown to be un-Constitutional.

    The question was, what has the House done that is unconstitutional? In consideration of your post, it appears you believe nothing has been done that is unconstitutional, since you chose not to comment on that primary point.
    It could be argued--and probably will be--that Congress refusing to honor the debts legally incurred by the USA is a violation of the 14th.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You did not answer me.......and undercut your own argument. If he made a statement as a senator, that makes them even more inconsequential.

    Again....how does his statement justify the actions of the baggers in the house?
    What was the difference in 2006 and today? Since leadership was an issue then why isn't it an issue today and leadership begins with Obama or should I say lack of leadership? We have a 17 trillion dollar debt and the debt limit doesn't need to increase at all, simply cut spending.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    However, they didn't give me the salary I thought I deserved, they gave me the least possible salary they could in order to maximize their profits; therefore, in light of how the private sector really works, the truth is that we need things like the Affordable Care Act--every little bit helps--and the fact that republicans voted to shut down the government by refusing to fund things that we all need unless obamacare is de-funded speaks for it self! This point is unarguable!

    And lastly if you are on the right, then you definitely need to be upset with Ted Cruz, Eric Cantor, and the tea party because they have failed to represent you by putting you in a losing political situation that will have major repercussions--by hurting your election chances, which will damage your ability to get any of your irrelevant political goals realized.
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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It could be argued--and probably will be--that Congress refusing to honor the debts legally incurred by the USA is a violation of the 14th.
    What debts is Congress refusing to pay, do you even know? Because Obama said it you believe it? Name for me the debt that the Congress refuses to pay?

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So I am told, looks like the only jobs Obama is creating are part time jobs. You really need to get over your BDS, Bush has been out of office for almost 5 years now and it is amazing that so many people keep trying to compare Obama results to someone they really despise and get frustrated when the Bush numbers are better.
    Um, you brought up Bush as the model of job growth.

    Here's how that argument looks.

    You: Bush was way better than Obama
    Me: Bush's number aren't actually that good.
    You: You have Bush Derangement syndrome, stop bringing up Bush.
    Me: Sigh....

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Old English View Post
    However, they didn't give me the salary I thought I deserved, they gave me the least possible salary they could in order to maximize their profits; therefore, in light of how the private sector really works, the truth is that we need things like the Affordable Care Act--every little bit helps--and the fact that republicans voted to shut down the government by refusing to fund things that we all need unless obamacare is de-funded speaks for it self! This point is unarguable!

    And lastly if you are on the right, then you definitely need to be upset with Ted Cruz, Eric Cantor, and the tea party because they have failed to represent you by putting you in a losing political situation that will have major repercussions--by hurting your election chances, which will damage your ability to get any of your irrelevant political goals realized.
    How dare that employer who invested his own money, is responsible for all state, local, and federal taxes and regulations, has a 24/7 responsibility and is always the last one paid not give you what you think you deserve.

    I love Ted Cruz and voted for him, Cannot vote for Cantor but would if I could.

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    Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

    You see, like Obama said, we have the ability to re-open the government right now, and if we have the ability to do it, then why aren't we doing it? This has nothing to do with funding, we are currently reducing the deficits, thereby solving all of your fiscal concerns: Rome Wasn't built in a day; however, the right wants to make sure it never gets built.

    The right has contradicted their entire political/philosophical base on this one. You see, now we can all see clearly that the right doesn't stand for principle; they stand against those who have principle, like Barack Obama: THEY ARE THE REAL LOOTERS THAT AYN RAND WAS TALKING ABOUT!
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