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    Syrian Rebel Groups Slam Western-backed Opposition.....

    More than a dozen key Syrian rebel groups said Wednesday that they reject the authority of the Western-backed opposition coalition, as U.N. inspectors returned to the country to continue their probe into chemical weapons attacks.

    In a joint statement, 13 rebel groups including a powerful al-Qaida-linked faction but also more mainstream forces slammed the Turkey-based Syrian National Coalition, saying it no longer represents their interests.

    The rebel groups' statement was titled "Communique No. 1," a term used before in Arab countries following military coups that suggests the creation of a new leadership body.

    It said the rebels do "not recognize" any future government formed outside Syria, insisting that forces fighting on the ground should be represented by "those who suffered and took part in the sacrifices."

    Among the signatories are the Islamist-leaning Ahrar al-Sham and Liwaa al-Islam brigades, both powerful rebel factions with large followings on the ground, as well as the al-Qaida-linked Nusra Front. Three of them the Liwaa al-Tawheed, the Liwaa al-Islam, and the Suqour al-Sham have until now been part of the Free Syrian Army, considered to be the Coalition's military wing.....snip~

    Syrian rebel groups slam Western-backed opposition

    It appears the Rebel/Terrorists have spoken.....not to mention now the FSA is losing most of their Military Wing. Moreover now the Russians have got the Inspectors to go in and specifically look at an Attack the Rebels/Terrorists made on the village of Khan al Assal outside the city of Aleppo, which was captured by the rebels in July.

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    Re: Syrian Rebel Groups Slam Western-backed Opposition.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It appears the Rebel/Terrorists have spoken.....not to mention now the FSA is losing most of their Military Wing. Moreover now the Russians have got the Inspectors to go in and specifically look at an Attack the Rebels/Terrorists made on the village of Khan al Assal outside the city of Aleppo, which was captured by the rebels in July.
    Given the Russians so called "investigation" they have done with their own attacks in the past, do you really think they will provide a non-biased look? I mean that's like asking Iran to look at human-rights violations the North Koreans are doing.

    Again, I think both sides are crooked as hell in Syria, but I sure am not under any delusions that the Russians will be non-biased either.

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    Re: Syrian Rebel Groups Slam Western-backed Opposition.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Given the Russians so called "investigation" they have done with their own attacks in the past, do you really think they will provide a non-biased look? I mean that's like asking Iran to look at human-rights violations the North Koreans are doing.

    Again, I think both sides are crooked as hell in Syria, but I sure am not under any delusions that the Russians will be non-biased either.
    Russia isn't worried about their attacks in the past.....Just like the US isn't worried about having used Napalm. But they are determined to prove that the Rebels used Chems. Moreover these are the same UN inspectors that were sent in on the 21st. Plus now Russia is willing to send in Advisors. Which means any proof that the Rebels/Terrorists used Chems. Then Russia can have open season on them.

    Which if that happens.....you can say goodbye to the Western back Opposition. No way can they stand on their own two feet now battling these Islamists and the Russians.

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    Re: Syrian Rebel Groups Slam Western-backed Opposition.....

    The SNC has never accepted Islamist extremist groups. It wants democracy, not totalitarian Sharia law. These extremists "slamming" the SNC have never been invited to join.

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    Re: Syrian Rebel Groups Slam Western-backed Opposition.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The SNC has never accepted Islamist extremist groups. It wants democracy, not totalitarian Sharia law.
    Yeah.....except for having those backers from the MB and the Salafists. That's makes the Democracy theory questionable. Moreover we already have articles where it shown even FSA Commanders wants some form of Sharia law.

    Yet how does this change up anything with the most Powerful of the Rebel/Terrorists and now the majority of the SNC/FSA's Military wing going against them?

    It appears at this moment in time the French/American led pipedream.....is a complete bust. Maybe next time.....we shouldn't be so eager to listen to much of the what the French says and we should know who all the players are before we try to jump into the game.

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    Re: Syrian Rebel Groups Slam Western-backed Opposition.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah...
    It's like a kid that was not invited to the prom:

    I didn't wanna go anyway. Proms suck! We should make our own prom, it would be super cool!



    Yet how does this change up anything with the most Powerful of the Rebel/Terrorists and now the majority of the SNC/FSA's Military wing going against them?
    Got a citation with numbers? IHS Jane claimed a max of 30k out of 100k. You believed that report last week.

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    Re: Syrian Rebel Groups Slam Western-backed Opposition.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's like a kid that was not invited to the prom:

    I didn't wanna go anyway. Proms suck! We should make our own prom, it would be super cool!


    Got a citation with numbers? IHS Jane claimed a max of 30k out of 100k. You believed that report last week.
    Actually here it was more like.....those who talk a good game yet was afraid to handle things on their own. So please wont someone take my hand, hold my hand, and please don't let me go it alone, as we cant stand on our own two feet all alone, in the dark, by ourselves.

    You got anything other than John Kerry said as a source and proof with any sort of validation.....YET????? You mean to tell me not even after a month. You still can't come up with anything. Anything other than well the government says so.....so it has to be true.

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    Re: Syrian Rebel Groups Slam Western-backed Opposition.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
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    You got anything other than John Kerry said as a source and proof with any sort of validation.....YET????? You mean to tell me not even after a month. You still can't come up with anything. Anything other than well the government says so.....so it has to be true.
    The SoS claimed 15-25% extremists. IHS Jane claimed 30k of 100k extremist. Your narrative remains the same as well, "they're mostly terrorists and will take over Syria". The supporters of the ~2/3 (SNC) far outnumber the supporters of the 1/3 (extreme Islamists). Thus, much more of the country supports a non-extreme democracy, with even females voting. And human rights, including what should be their first amendment "the government shall not gas the people".

    As the extremists provide security, the longer Assad wages war against his people the stronger the extremist and especially terrorist groups become. Will we wait until social capital is destroyed, as in Iraq, before we end the slaughter?

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    Re: Syrian Rebel Groups Slam Western-backed Opposition.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The SoS claimed 15-25% extremists. IHS Jane claimed 30k of 100k extremist. Your narrative remains the same as well, "they're mostly terrorists and will take over Syria". The supporters of the ~2/3 (SNC) far outnumber the supporters of the 1/3 (extreme Islamists). Thus, much more of the country supports a non-extreme democracy, with even females voting. And human rights, including what should be their first amendment "the government shall not gas the people".

    As the extremists provide security, the longer Assad wages war against his people the stronger the extremist and especially terrorist groups become. Will we wait until social capital is destroyed, as in Iraq, before we end the slaughter?
    Extremists.....Islamists.....looking in and finding more Islamists. Don't forget now you criticized the IHS Jane report so you cant use that as a basis now. To use it then would be to use all of the report as to what it stated. Not just the parts you want to cherry pick. Which then that leaves you back to square one. John Kerry said and the Government says so.....so it must be true. Which all know where that stands in the true reality of things.

    Stop the slaughter? What a joke.....The Sunni Muslims and their Doctrine are slaughtering the Shia. They slaughter Christians and others of opposing faiths. They have been committing non stop Genocide upon the Shia for generations. They have been using Democracy to gain power. That's the only purpose it is used for. Moreover the majority that are Democracies the women have no Rights.....nor any others that are considered an Abomination before their God.

    We will end the Slaughter? Ask yourself first.....why we are assisting it and handing countries over to the Sunni to run. When they have deceived all from their own words that come out of their own mouths. That enemy of my enemy is my friend scenario.....was never a strategy that was a winning one.

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    Re: Syrian Rebel Groups Slam Western-backed Opposition.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Extremists.....Islamists.....looking in and finding more Islamists.
    They're pretty much all Islamist, we're discussing Syria. Not all Islamists are extremists.

    Don't forget now you criticized the IHS Jane report so you cant use that as a basis now.
    I criticized your presenting it as fact and as if it supported your position. I also criticized believing it (a private, profit and PR based company) over the word of the State Department. Nonetheless, it seems you've finally come to realize that it supports the SoS's claim and so you have decided to abandon it.

    To use it then would be to use all of the report as to what it stated. Not just the parts you want to cherry pick. Which then that leaves you back to square one. John Kerry said and the Government says so.....so it must be true. Which all know where that stands in the true reality of things.
    The report was clear and supported the SoS's claim. Perhaps you should try reading it again.

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