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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

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    Not according to the line items in the budget, healthcare costs are mostly bourn by the states and not the federal tax dollars. Tell me where healthcare costs are in these line items?
    Medicare and VA benefits? I'm not sure where Medicaid fits in that list.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

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    Medicare and VA benefits? I'm not sure where Medicaid fits in that list.



    Amen to that.
    Medicare was always self funding just like SS and was never to be part of the budget. LBJ changed that when he created the unified budget. Medicare should never be part of the issue. Medicaid is part of HHS and also gets funding from the states. VA is a line item in the budget and also includes military veterans from all the wars. The problem that liberals have is they want to blame the debt on the wars and as the line items show that just isn't the case. Much of the problem is Obama spending too much and not putting enough people back to work with a pro growth economic policy. You don't pay for a 3.77 trillion dollar budget with 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers not paying much if any in Federal income taxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Medicare was always self funding just like SS and was never to be part of the budget. LBJ changed that when he created the unified budget. Medicare should never be part of the issue. Medicaid is part of HHS and also gets funding from the states. VA is a line item in the budget and also includes military veterans from all the wars. The problem that liberals have is they want to blame the debt on the wars and as the line items show that just isn't the case. Much of the problem is Obama spending too much and not putting enough people back to work with a pro growth economic policy. You don't pay for a 3.77 trillion dollar budget with 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers not paying much if any in Federal income taxes
    But in another thread you were whining about how the congress hasn't passed a budget in years. How can Obama spending be out of control if there has been no change in four years?
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

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    Medicare was always self funding just like SS and was never to be part of the budget. LBJ changed that when he created the unified budget. Medicare should never be part of the issue. Medicaid is part of HHS and also gets funding from the states. VA is a line item in the budget and also includes military veterans from all the wars. The problem that liberals have is they want to blame the debt on the wars and as the line items show that just isn't the case. Much of the problem is Obama spending too much and not putting enough people back to work with a pro growth economic policy. You don't pay for a 3.77 trillion dollar budget with 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers not paying much if any in Federal income taxes
    No, you don't, and we won't.

    Medicare and SS may not have been supposed to be a part of the budget, but the fact is, they are a part of it.

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    Now, two supposdtas and five bucks will get you a grande latte mocha with fru frus on top.
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

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    But in another thread you were whining about how the congress hasn't passed a budget in years. How can Obama spending be out of control if there has been no change in four years?
    Yet Obama and Congress continue to spend money on things like the Stimulus that stimulated what? The takeover of GM/Chrysler, the supplementals for Afghanistan, the implementation of Obamacare. I could go on but for some reason I don't see much use with you

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, you don't, and we won't.

    Medicare and SS may not have been supposed to be a part of the budget, but the fact is, they are a part of it.

    We used to say that two supposdtas and a dime would get you a cup of coffee, but that's out of date.

    Now, two supposdtas and five bucks will get you a grande latte mocha with fru frus on top.
    Doesn't make it right and is why we have so many who lack any understanding of the budget and the taxes that pay for those line items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yet Obama and Congress continue to spend money on things like the Stimulus that stimulated what? The takeover of GM/Chrysler, the supplementals for Afghanistan, the implementation of Obamacare. I could go on but for some reason I don't see much use with you
    Yeah. Because I school you continuously.

    The stimulus was a one time occurence that educated people (you might know some) believe may have prevented the recession from going to depression. It hasn't been part if the budget for a couple years.
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

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    Yeah. Because I school you continuously.

    The stimulus was a one time occurence that educated people (you might know some) believe may have prevented the recession from going to depression. It hasn't been part if the budget for a couple years.
    LOL, you better school yourself because I can beat you to death all night with actual Obama economic data. The stimulus was an expense added to the debt, it didn't create enough jobs to keep unemployment below 8% as promised. Obama submitted a 3.77 trillion dollar budget so what does that do to the deficit if it was passed? Do you always buy what Obama says? Why don't you hold him to the same standards as you hold Republicans?

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

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    Yet Obama and Congress continue to spend money on things like...the supplementals for Afghanistan,
    One minute it's not the wars and the next minute it is the wars. When your name is "Conservative" it's good to have options when it comes to blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, you better school yourself because I can beat you to death all night with actual Obama economic data. The stimulus was an expense added to the debt, it didn't create enough jobs to keep unemployment below 8% as promised. Obama submitted a 3.77 trillion dollar budget so what does that do to the deficit if it was passed? Do you always buy what Obama says? Why don't you hold him to the same standards as you hold Republicans?
    You didn't even know anything about a linchpin ACA program. You think Obama has increased deficits primarily by spending. You think you are forced to use Medicare.

    Schooled. But somehow refractory to rudimentary education!

    You are an embarrassment to actual Conservatives. And the sad thing is...you don't recognize it.
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