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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You do have a point there, but consider this: A large part of that enormous debt is a direct result of having the most expensive health care system in the world.

    So, the next order of business needs to be further reform, this time with the goal of decreasing costs.
    Not according to the line items in the budget, healthcare costs are mostly bourn by the states and not the federal tax dollars. Tell me where healthcare costs are in these line items?

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    It is amazing the line of bs the bureaucrats give us, on both sides but on different issues. I believe it is the role of the Federal Govt. to PROVIDE for the common defense and PROMOTE Domestic welfare, not provide for it.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't think a govt. that has generated a 17 trillion dollar debt should be trying to reform anything until they get the federal debt under control. Why would anyone believe bureaucrats that created that debt are going to implement any program that would reduce that debt?
    Is that what you said before getting us into two long term wars? I at least understood Afghanistan. Iraq? A war of choice before we really had "mission accomplished" in Afghanistan?

    It is unnerving to no end that these debt concerns are when the other guy is in office.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    19 hours...

    He spent 19 hours talking **** because he just wants to harm people according to progressives..

    Maybe - just maybe - killing everyone isn't the goal???

    Maybe there is another side of the coin????

    No that's right to progressives Cruz wants to kill you and your babies and only cares about corporate profits as your talking heads say..

    If republicans hated you or wanted you to die from infection the would support and pass Obamacare...

    Wait until your kid attempts to make a Youtube video and breaks his/her arm and is stuck 18 hours behind the idiot who is next because he was stabbed in the face and body several times and shot in the head...

    Nasty healthcare....

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Is that what you said before getting us into two long term wars? I at least understood Afghanistan. Iraq? A war of choice before we really had "mission accomplished" in Afghanistan?

    It is unnerving to no end that these debt concerns are when the other guy is in office.
    Oh, good lord, there was 5.7 trillion in debt before Bush took office, 1 trillion was added due to 9/11, the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars cost 1.4 trillion dollars over 10 years or 140 billion a year. Bush left office with a 10.6 trillion dollar debt that is 17 trillion today. You people really need to stop buying the liberal talking points. Further the Iraq War ended with the status of Forces agreement in October 2008 so please explain to me how the Iraq war contributed to the 6.4 trillion debt Obama has added. I cannot believe how brainwashed some people are and the lies that they buy just because they want to believe in the ideology.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

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    Apparently someone who hasn't learned a thing is school looking for attention and baiting. Come up with something significant if you really want me to address your idiotic posts. You have learned absolutely nothing

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    Umm, I know what it is Comrade Conservative for it is the House of Representatives. Way to get butt hurt over a "idiotic post." Is it because you believe in Communism, Comrade? Nobody calls it the People's House.
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell View Post
    Umm, I know what it is Comrade Conservative for it is the House of Representatives. Way to get butt hurt over a "idiotic post." Is it because you believe in Communism, Comrade? Nobody calls it the People's House.
    No, that is true but everytime the Democrats talk about control of the Senate the counter to that is the people's house being under control of the Republicans. That is more indicative of the direction the country is taking vs. the Senate and the WH. Too many big cities controlling state wide elections. Capturing the big cities can carry a lot of states for national candidates but our Founders believed in having the power closest to the people and that would be the Representatives in the House

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oh, good lord, there was 5.7 trillion in debt before Bush took office, 1 trillion was added due to 9/11, the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars cost 1.4 trillion dollars over 10 years or 140 billion a year. Bush left office with a 10.6 trillion dollar debt that is 17 trillion today. You people really need to stop buying the liberal talking points. Further the Iraq War ended with the status of Forces agreement in October 2008 so please explain to me how the Iraq war contributed to the 6.4 trillion debt Obama has added. I cannot believe how brainwashed some people are and the lies that they buy just because they want to believe in the ideology.
    Do you think the cost of those wars stopped when the troops come home?

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Do you think the cost of those wars stopped when the troops come home?
    No, but the cost was absorbed in the budget under Defense, no supplemental's. Do you think because the war ended the troops would have been disbanded.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, but the cost was absorbed in the budget under Defense, no supplemental's. Do you think because the war ended the troops would have been disbanded.
    I am speaking to the physically and emotionally wounded veterans who have come back and well need substantial care for life.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I am speaking to the physically and emotionally wounded veterans who have come back and well need substantial care for life.
    You are speaking about something you do not understand, the budget and the deficits. Tell me how much of the 6.4 trillion dollars Obama has added to the debt is due to Iraq? Here are the budget line items so tell me how much of those line items is attributed to Iraq and to the deficits Obama has generated?

    Defense 680.4
    International Affairs 47.2
    Gen. Science, Space 29.2
    Energy 14.8
    Natural resources/env 41.8
    Agriculture 19.7
    Commerce/Housing Cr 40.3
    Transportation 91.2
    Community Dev 26.1
    Education/Train/Social 89.1
    Health 346.7
    Medicare 471.8
    Income Security 542.1
    Social Security 773.3
    Veterans Benefits 124.6
    Justice 57.6
    General Govt. 23.4
    Net Interest 222.5
    The amounts at the side were 2012 line items

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